Dear Chhugani

           Your version to some extent may be correct . Working
officials transferred to these departments are unwanted or either
their Senior bosses and others officers in parent deptt. are fed up
with them  and wants to send them away.But still sizeable persons are
willing persons to actually deliver the goods, who occupy placements
in these three departments. In every department(including the
vigilence and anti-corruption), you will find the corrupt officials.
         We have no option, except to raise our voice when we are
victimized. This is how the
working is going on since a long period of time. Even if  "Commission
to Control Corruption", on lines of the election commission, is set up
to fight corruption through out the country,
 corruption will continue to grow. Even the recruitment to this
anti-corruption organisation is made directly, the corruption will
continue. Dr Leo Rebello on 19-10-2008 in Mumbai  had discussed this
matter , including the corruption in judiciary, where advocate sons of
High Court Judges are practicing in the same centres and indirectly
their juniors advocates/touts are appearing before their father Judge
to only move their lips and obtain favouring orders for their clients
and thus are earning several crores of Rupees and are paying Income
tax also to make the money as white money. The son advocate of High
Court Judge are also CHARGING HEFTY FEES AND are earning lakhs of
Rupees as fees when they appear before their UNCLE JUDGES. Dr Rebello
has suggested certain measures, when Judicial Council is going to be
formed by GOI. In the meeting at Mumbai I also participated.
         May God help us.
Regards
Dr.JN Sharma


On 10/27/08, Indur Chhugani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 The majority of the people transfered to the Vigilance and Anti Corruption
> departments & RTI Commissions are the ones who are most corrupt ...
>
> This is done so that these departments sympathise with the corrupt and
> frustrate all efforts of those who come there fighting corruption ( please
> read my experiences at http://www.RoguePolice.com/fightnow.htm ).
>
> Unless and untill some "Commission to Control Corruption", on lines of the
> election commission, is set up to fight corruption through out the country,
> corruption will continue to grow. Recruitment to this anti-corruption
> organisation must be made directly.
>
> I K Chhugani
> http://www.RoguePolice.com
> Mobile 091 98201 71571
>
> --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Jagnarain Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: Jagnarain Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Our Visit to RTI Commissioners office on 24th
> October 2008
> To: "I K Chhugani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 3:44 AM
>
> I wonder when I read your message.
> May God bless you all
> Regards
> Dr.JN Sharma
>
> On 10/26/08, I K Chhugani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>   Our Visit to RTI Commissioners office on 24th October 2008
>>
>> When the highest upholders of the RTI Act decide not to comply with its
>> norms, then the effectiveness of the three-year-old sunshine act comes
>> into question.
>>
>> The activists, including Krishnaraj Rao, Gaurang Vohra, Mohammed Afzal
>> and Sundeep Jalan and myself, were prompted to conduct an inspection of
>> the SIC files, after hearing the travails of Nagendra Pandey, a
>> slumdweller from Shivajinagar, Malad (E).
>>
>> After a joint meeting between Mr Suresh Joshi and the 6 of us, Mr Joshi
>> called me alone. What transpired, is as follows.
>>
>> Immediately on entering, I asked Mr Joshi, "How did you pass an
> order,
>> which is absolutely absurd in my 2nd appeal, wherein the most Sr police
>> officials were involved in talking on mobile to Rs 1000 Cr fraudster Mr
>> Raj Basantani, who had fled from India to the US, was it not helping the
>> corrupt ?".
>>
>> Mr Joshi tried to tell me "Many people use RTI to black mail".
> And I
>> interrupted "Are you trying to say, I was attempting to blackmail,
> the
>> Mumbai Police Commissioner, other Sr Police Commissioners, Ministers and
>> Judges, who were on mobile with fraudster ?" .... "No No No
> please
>> understand what I have to say" he pleaded.
>>
>> Mr Joshi then said "Many people get information about wrong doings by
>> builders about their projects and then blackmail the builders, offcourse
>> when they do wrongs, they deserve to be blackmailed. and I believe only
>> 10-15% of the RTI appeals are like this" ... I wanted to get him back
> on
>> track to my 2nd appeal absurd order, he had passed.
>>
>> Thrusting the order in his hand, I said "While hearing, on 8th and
> 10th
>> April 2008, you asked them very intelligent questions and then delared,
>> your Inquiry report is not a inquiry report but see what order you have
>> passed, even this order I got after I filed a Criminal Writ Petition in
>> the High Court, I have no income and no funds & you forced me to go to
>> high court. Now please rectify this absurd order yourself, I do not want
>> to approach the high court again".
>>
>> Mr Joshi went through the order, noting down the number and certain
>> details, while I kept telling him "More details you will get from
> Writ
>> Petition in the high court I had filed, copy of which you have".
>>
>> Thereafter I told Mr Joshi "In 2006, all RTI applications I made,
> reply
>> was always received in 25-28 days but now whenever we file RTI, no one
>> bothers to reply in less then 45-60 days, 1st appeal takes upto 90 days
>> ( here I showed him reply to my recent 1st appeal ). WHY because earlier
>> they were afraid of the RTI Act, now they are aware Mr Suresh Joshi is
>> there to take care of us, we will not be penalised. Mr joshi it is you,
>> who have allowed RTI act to flounder in Maharashtra".
>>
>> Mr Joshi ended the meeting, stating I would like to call you for further
>> discussion. And my last words were "Please go through the appeal and
> the
>> order you have passed, maybe you will realise you have made a mistake,
>> PLEASE AMEND THE ORDER, I do not wish to file a petition in the high
>> court, I have no money".
>>
>> ( Also at one time during the 15 minutes I spent wirh him alone, Mr
>> Suresh Joshi told me, RTI is made for the poor, so I informed him, no
>> one is more qualified on that account than me, as I have had nil income
>> for about 5 years now and it was my son's earning that are being
>> utilised to file RTI applications and keep the NGO running ... Also I
>> handed over the leaflet of my NGO PLEAD and asked Mr Suresh Joshi to
>> join in, by filling the simple enrollment form )
>>
>> Read full report from Times & DNA at
> http://www.RoguePolice.com/6rti.htm
>> <http://www.roguepolice.com/6rti.htm>
>>
>>
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