dont send any more mails thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Brando Conscience To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [rti_india] Not much helpfrom this RTI group
Sir, i would also like to unsubscibe from your group,as not much help is coming except we keep reading issues which are not helping us to file RTI application. Regards Regards BRANDOCONSCIENCE The way to avoid the lies and find the Truth is to follow our heart and intuition - then I know I will always be on the right path. I must ponder on The real questions. The real questions refuse to be placated. They barge into our life at the times when it seems most important for them to stay away. They are the questions asked most frequently and answered most inadequately, the ones that reveal their true natures slowly, reluctantly, most often. I am the only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything. I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. and what I should do, by the grace of God I will do --- On Wed, 12/3/08, sroy1947 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: sroy1947 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [rti_india] Re: Fw: Recommendation of the CIC Convention To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 12:31 PM Dear Group, Milapji has come up in trumps. If these emails are correct (and we have no reason to suspect Milapji of forging these) we have the proof here to nail the CIC. My observations: 1) Pankaj Shreyaskar (I never knew his real name to be Pankaj Pandey) uses a yahoo mail account for official work ? No wonder Chinese Hackers have a free run at the CIC. 2) The recommendations (?) of the Convention are concocted by Pankaj Shreyaskar and ratified by Mr. Habibullah? Surely these things are meant to be ratified by the General Body - or at least the participants / panelists. Strange how none of the other ICs seem to be in this loop ! 3) The entire show was rigged by the NCPRI in co-ordination with Mr Habibullah to benefit the MASSIVE and systematic NREGA loot which Ms Aruna Roy and her gang are promoting via RTI and Panchayat Ministry (we all remember who retired as Secretary from there). was this an NREGA convention or an RTI convention? 4) Now I can finally share something with the group - actually this places it firmly in public domain where it deserves to be. When I "served" on a panel at the First CIC organised RTI Convention of Oct 2006 at Vigyan Bhawan - half our panelists (Panel #2) failed to turn up for the morning deliberation session. SCIC Tolia (of Uttaranchal) was the Chairman and he proceeded to spout the official line including tutoring the PIOs present to rewrite their Weeding Rules to delete all records older than 10 years. We were then all meant to sit together and draft our panel's recommendations. Curiously SCIC Tolia remembered a prior lunch appointment and promised to rejoin us to draft our recommendations / resolution. Till 3:30 PM there was no sign of him, and finally just when it was our turn to go upto the Vigyan Bhawan dias to present our panel's discussions SCIC Tolia lands up in a very "merry", "jolly" and "well pickled" (to the gills) mood and proceeds to take typed up sheets of paper out of his coat pocket purporting to be the deliberations of our panel (and which were clearly his pre-written fantasies). Once I got my turn at the mike, I of course disabused everybody publicly that we had ever agreed to such things or that I was a party to such crap. In fact I publicly refused to agree to (or ratify) the crap which SCIC Tolia and Mr Yugantar (who wasn't even present at the deliberations) were trying to palm off as our panel's consensus. 5) Based on my experience, this time around many principled and upright RTI'ers (individual citizens) invited by CIC to serve on their panels refused to participate (be accomplices) in this blatant subversion of RTI by Romeo and Juliet. Needless to say I was not invited to attend (being 'persona non-grata' at CIC). Sarbajit Our panel's alleged recommendations: - http://cic.gov. in/Conference/ Report-FInal. pdf --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Milap Choraria <milap_choraria@ ..> wrote: > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Milap Choraria <milap_choraria@ ...> wrote: > > From: Milap Choraria <milap_choraria@ ...> > Subject: Recommendation of the CIC Convention > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:06 PM > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, wajahat <whabibullah@ ...> wrote: > > From: wajahat whabibullah@ ... (Chief Information Commissioner, CIC) > Subject: Re: Recommendation of the Convention > To: "pankaj pandey" <shreyaskarps@ ...> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:25 PM > > > Here they are as revised. Let me have the deatails > Wajahat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pankaj pandey <shreyaskarps@ ...> > Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:24 pm > Subject: Recommendation of the Convention > To: wajahat habibullah whabibullah@ ... > > > Sir > I have prepared the Report of the deliberations for all technical sessions. This runs in 20 pages. However, the recommendations of each of technical sessions are not relevant for the Government. Nevertheless, after going through the record of deliberations of all the sessions one page recommendation that may be sent to the Government is enclosed herewith. For approval/alteration s please. The detailed report of each of the session is being submitted to your kindself on file. > > Regards > PANKAJ K P SHREYASKAR,ISS > Deputy Secretary & Joint registrar > Central Information Commission > IInd Floor, August Kranti Bhawan > Bhikaji Cama PlaceNew Delhi-110066 > Telefax 011-26717354( O) > > > RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIRD ANNUAL CONVENTION > CONCLUDED DURING 3-4 TH NOVEMBER, 2008 > Two day Annual Convention recommended the following points to appropriate Governments. > > 1. Govt of India consider setting up an Advisory Council in the DoPT to advise on the evolution of effective implementation of RTI across the country > > 2. The appropriate Government consider strengthening the Information Commissions not only in respect of adequate budgetary support but also in respect of personnel so that they may dispose of the pending cases within stipulated time frames. > > 3. The appropriate Government consider creating adequate infrastructure for the Information Commissions. > > 4. The appropriate Government should make adequate budgetary provisions for developing and implementation of public awareness programmes on RTI Act. > > 5. The appropriate Government must enforce the full implementation of provisions of section 4 including maintaining and cataloguing of records by the Public Authorities. It should also ensure that public authorities must publish and place on their websites all relevant facts while formulating important policies or announcing the decisions, which affect public. > 6. The appropriate governments must integrate RTI with all flagship programmes, as has been initiated with NREGA so that the monitoring mechanism of the programmes becomes more efficient and also that the public has minimum resort to use of the RTI Act to obtain information in respect of a particular flagship programme of the Government. > > 7. All State Governments work with Ministry of Panchayati Raj to ensure staffing all panchayats with responsible PIOs > > 8. All Departments both at the Central and State levels work on restructuring established work processes to make these compatible with RTI. > > 9. An institutional framework be developed for SAARC countries to coordinate implementation of RTI > TRUTH SHALL ALWAYS PREVAIL > Milap Choraria Editor: Suchna Ka Adhikar / RTI TIMES > National Convenor : Movement for Accountability to Public (MAP) > http://milapchorari a.tripod. com/msp http://rtitimes. net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
