Dear Friend,

1) I suppose the Constitution of India supersedes any other law in our country.

2) Parliament comes into existence by virtue of the Constitution of India.

3) Having come into existence Parliamentarians can amend the Constitution of 
India, if the majority of them vote in one direction.

4) The Parliament has passed the RTI Act, 2005.

5) It is clearly stated in the act that no Court shall entertain any order/ 
decision passed under the RTI act.

6) It is also clearly stated in the act that the Act will have an overriding 
effect in case of conflict with any other law prevailing in the country for the 
time being in force.

7) A Court can definitely entertain a WP on the Information Commissioner 
him/herself as he/she is not above the law, but a Court of law cannot entertain 
a WP challenging an order/decision passed by him/her under the RTI act.

8) I suppose the Court will first have to invoke Article 228 of the 
Constitution, clarify the interpretation of the RTI Act sec. 22 & 23 and then 
entertain any proceeding against the order/decision passed under the RTI act by 
invoking Article 226 & 227 of the Constitution.

I would appreciate your point of view on the arguments above.

Warm Regards.


On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 Vikram Simha wrote :
>Dear Freind ,
>please Explain the Words ""wise than by way of an appeal under this act "  in 
>the context of your Argument that it is bad in law and Act is passed by 
>parliament
>
>N vikramsimha , KRIA Katte& Trustee RTI Study Centre  , #12 Sumeru Sir M N 
>Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
>
>--- On Wed, 11/3/09, abhi987 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> From: abhi987 <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Re: [rti_india] BBMP Questions Karnataka Information Commissions 
>Power To Provide Compensation in Ka
>To: [email protected]
>Cc: [email protected]
>Date: Wednesday, 11 March, 2009, 8:44 PM
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>Dear Vikram,
>
>RTI act has been passed by the Parliament, and it is very clear under sec. 23 
>that the orders/decisions passed under the act cannot be entertained by any 
>court of law.
>
>In my view if a Court has entertained any order/decision passed under the RTI 
>act it is bad in law.
>
>Kindly elaborate your point of view.
>
>Warm Regards.
>
>
>On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:37:07 +0530 wrote
> >Dear Freind ,
> >I have gone through your arguments , but sorry to say that your arguments 
> >find no water .
> >You suggest me to quote section 23 of the RTI Act . The KIC has deceided and 
> >the Appeal is before Karnataka High Court (by way of appeal under this act 
> >WP under Article 226&227 of the constitution)
> >The RTI application was made under RTI Act , First Appeal was not heard and 
> >Hence 2nd Appeal was made with KIC , KIC has Deceided the case , Provided 
> >Compensation( sec 19.8.b--- ""Require the public authority to compensate the 
> >complaiant for any loss or other detriment suffered"" )
> >Hence every thing has been made under RTI Act 2005  and not under any law 
> >, Do you mean state that we should argue that RTI Act 2005 overides RTI Act 
> >2005 .
> >We have also made our appeal in Confirmity of Gujarat High Court Orders 
> >Reported in AIR2007 Gujarath 2003 , Reliance Industries ltd Vs Gujarat State 
> >Information Commission & others .
> >The Matter is not that of Sec 22 &/or 23 but questioning of Sec 19.8.b which 
> >has been quoted by me above .
> >
> >N vikramsimha , KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road 
> >, Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
> >
> >--- On Tue, 10/3/09, abhi987 wrote:
> >
> >
> >From: abhi987
> >Subject: Re: [rti_india] BBMP Questions Karnataka Information Commissions 
> >Power To Provide Compensation in Ka
> >To: rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com
> >Cc: "Vikram Simha" , "Karnataka Intiative RTI"
> >Date: Tuesday, 10 March, 2009, 10:16 AM
> >
> >
> >-----Inline Attachment Follows-----
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> >
> >Dear Vikram,
> >
> >The interim stay order passed by the Karnataka High Court is BAD IN LAW.
> >
> >Kindly bring this to the notice of the KHC by quoting sec. 23 of the RTI 
> >Act, 2005 which has been passed in the Parliament.
> >
> >Also quote sec. 22 of the act which clearly states that in case of conflict, 
> >RTI act will prevail over any other law for the time being in force.
> >
> >I have copy - pasted below sec.23 and sec. 22 of the RTI Act, 2005 for your 
> >immediate reference.
> >
> >Section 23 TITLED:
> >
> >BAR OF JURISDICTION OF COURTS
> >
> >Section 23. No court shall entertain any suit, application or other 
> >proceeding in respect of any order made under this Act and no such order 
> >shall be called in question otherwise than by way of an appeal under this 
> >Act.
> >
> >Sec 22 TITLED:
> >
> >ACT TO HAVE OVERRIDING EFFECT
> >
> >Sec 22. The provisions of this Act shall have effect notwithstanding 
> >anything inconsistent therewith contained in the Official Secrets Act, 1923, 
> >and any other law for the time being in force or in any instrument having 
> >effect by virtue of any law other than this Act.
> >
> >Warm Regards,
> >
> >On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 Vikram Simha wrote :
> >>
> >>Freinds ,
> >>Activist From Our RTI Study Centre Mr Kaldas Reddy has today been served 
> >>Karnataka High Court Interim Order  Staying KIC Order No KIC 564COM2008 dt 
> >>31..10.2008 .in WP 2816/2009(GM- RES) . The Interim Order also Speaks There 
> >>is a Pendency of Issue of Rule Nisi in the WP .
> >>The Matter Relates to KIC Providing Rs 1000/- as Compensation for 
> >>Detreiments Suffered by Our Activist .
> >>The Original Matter Relates to Five Bus Shelters which were not constructed 
> >>from MP Sri H T Sanglianas MPLADS Funds
> >>Details of the WP and Averments etc Follows .
> >>Our RTI Study Centre will ensure that Sri Kalidas reddy Gets an Very Senior 
> >>Advocate to Fight the Case though the Matter is More of the Powers of the 
> >>Information Commission To Provide Compensation Under Sec 19(8)(b)
> >>We May Require Assistance of all Activists Especially of Cases Where 
> >>Compensation is Awarded and also Cases where the Gujarath High Court Order 
> >>No AIR 2007 Gujarat 203 was adhered to Seek Reliefs of Information and 
> >>Penalty & Compensation Sepratly
> >>N vikramsimha , KRIA Katte & Trustee RTI Study Centre  #12 Sumeru Sir M N 
> >>Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
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