You will be pleased to know that many Indian's are exempt from standing up when the national anthem is played. It is probable that Mr Joshi (like me) is one of those exempt people.
>From Krishnaraj's message, it also seems that Mr Joshi behaved very correctly >with them, however, these RTI goondas (aka "activists") think they have a god >given right to barge into offices of public servants and disturb their >functioning - ignoring directions that only 5 person would be allowed inside >Mr Joshi's chamber. By wilfully disregarding this direction they breached >section 144's ceiling and exposed themselves to various criminal charges. To >wriggle out of this situation their advocate has evidently coached them to >claim that there were 2 groups of 4/5 people and 1 singleton. It is also very disturbing that Central Information Commissioner Shailesh Gandhi continues to encourage the Maharashtrian RTI goondas running amok in his home base of Mumbai, by corresponding with them from his personal email accounts. Sarbajit --- In [email protected], LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2...@...> wrote: > > Really Brave hearts that what i can call them, > > --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Krishnaraj Rao <sahasipadya...@...> wrote: > > > From: Krishnaraj Rao <sahasipadya...@...> > Subject: [rti4empowerment] 48-hour Jail Experience Part I > To: [email protected], [email protected], > rtiker...@... > Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 4:02 PM > > > > > > > > > How we landed in Jail â" a brief account > Dear friends, > Since our release last Thursday after 48 hours in police and judicial > custody, we have been repeatedly asked: âWhat exactly happened? Why were > you charged with trespass, rioting, assault etc? Did you go on a rampage in > Dr Suresh Joshiâs office or courtroom? How can singing Jana Gana Mana get > somebody into so much trouble?â > People also ask, âHow did it feel to be in jail? How are you feeling now? > Arenât you ashamed of being branded as criminals?â > On behalf of our small group of jailbirds, who proudly call themselves the > Jana Gana Mana group, let me put the facts on record. I shall write this in > three parts: > Part I: What exactly happened at Maharashtra State Information Commission on > Tuesday, 19th May? Why did we get arrested? Why did CSIC Dr Joshi lodge an > FIR with the Police? > Part II: What were the events in the earlier months that built up to this > incident? Were we very aggressive or did we misbehave in earlier meetings? > What put Dr Joshi into his negative / angry / vindictive frame of mind? > Part III: How did it feel to be in police lockup, taken around in police > vans, marched barefoot to the Magistrate court, and sleep among 130 assorted > inmates at Arthur Road jail? How was the food, and how were our conversations > with undertrials and hardened criminals? > Today, I shall write only Part I. > What happened on the afternoon of 19th May > Dr Srikant Prabhu, a 67-year-old veterinarian, had a second appeal hearing > before Dr Suresh Joshi at 4.30 pm. He was accompanied by G R Vora and Mohd > Afzal. They completed that hearing before the other activists arrived one by > one at the State Information Commission. > In fact, we were not one homogenous group. Two groups and some individual > activists pursuing their own cause were together at this meeting to press for > clean implementation of the RTI Act. > ·       Krishnaraj Rao, G R Vora, Mohd Afzal and Sunil Ahya comprise > one group. They had been following up Dr Suresh Joshi for proper > implementation of RTI Act since November 2008. > ·       Another group consists of Mukund Parikh, Dr Srikant Prabhu, > Sanjay Ghatalia and K N Singh. > ·       Vijay Chavan is a social activist who had been pursuing a > number of second appeals, and successfully got several PIOs penalized. > ·       Ravi Kiran Haldipur was an appellant who had recently become > interested in our cause and our methods. > Our group â" the first one -- submitted a letter to the inward department. > The letter warned that if Information Commissioners implemented penal > provisions of RTI Act in an arbitrary or mala fide way, then Sec. 217 & 218 > of the Indian Penal Code would be applicable. They could be hauled to court > and jailed for such action. Attached to this letter were relevant judgments > of High Courts and Supreme Court. > Read letter here: http://www.box. net/shared/ l9tmt6zs3y > Having submitted the letter, we spoke to Dr Joshiâs Executive Assistant > Kalpana Gavas, and asked for a time to see Dr Joshi. She said that he was too > busy to see us, as he had a doctorâs appointment at 5.30. > So we said we would go inside and observe his court hearings. (This is > something that we have been doing a couple of times every month, in groups of > varying sizes.) Again, she consulted Dr Joshi and said that only five of us > could go inside at one time. We decided to disregard this. > We entered, stood or sat at the back, and observed one hearing. After the > hearing was completed, we requested Dr Joshi (who had a band-aid on his > forehead) for a brief meeting to submit our letter personally. He granted us > five minutes and asked us to come to the front. Dr Joshi said that he would > henceforth meet us and other activists only on the first Monday of every > month. We told him that this was unacceptable, as the list of things that he > had promised and had not implemented was growing longer, requiring more > frequent meetings. > Suddenly, a well-known social activist who had come with us for the first > time, stood up and announced that he always began this kind of meetings by > singing the National Anthem in order to invoke a patriotic spirit. (He had > earlier sung the National Anthem at the office of Dr Patangrao Kadam, > Maharashtra Housing Minister.) He then unilaterally started singing Jana Gana > Mana. The rest of us joined him in chorus. Dr Joshi remained seated for the > initial three lines, and then shook his head in dismay, got up and left the > room by the back door which leads to his chamber. > After we finished singing, we waited a few minutes for him to return, and > then someone went outside to find that Dr Joshi was leaving. Standing in the > lobby, he said loudly that this was not the way, and he was calling police. > We said that if that was indeed the case, they we would wait for the police > to arrive. > We waited in the lobby for half an hour, and took this group photo: > http://www.box. net/shared/ c3adg3gzg3 > When we asked Ms Gavas again whether we were required to wait any longer, she > asked us to wait. Approximately an hour after Dr Joshiâs departure, around > 15 policemen arrived, took the statements of Ms Gavas and other office staff, > took the group to Marine Drive Police Station in a police van and told us to > sign us the arrest/surrender form. We were put in police custody at Azad > Maidan Police Station overnight. Next day we were produced in Court and > granted bail on a surety of Rs 20,000 per head. As we could not produce this > at short notice, we were sent to Judicial Custody at Arthur Road Jail. > We were charged with the following offences: > Section 143- Whoever is a member of an unlawful assembly shall be punished > with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to six > month, or with fine, or with both. > Section 145- Joining or continuing in unlawful assembly, knowing it has been > commanded to disperse- Whoever joins or continues in an unlawful assembly, > knowing that such unlawful assembly has been commanded in the manner > prescribed by law to disperse, shall be punished with imprisonment of either > description for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with > both. > Section 146- Rioting- Whenever force or violence is used by an unlawful > assembly, or by any member thereof, in prosecution of the common object of > such assembly, every member of such assembly is guilty of the offence of > rioting. > Section 448- Whoever commits house-trespass shall be punished with > imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to one year, > or with fine or which may extend to one thousand rupees, or with both. > Section 452- House-trespass after preparation for hurt, assault or wrongful > restraint- Whoever commits house-trespass, having made preparation for > causing hurt to any person or for assaulting any person, or for wrongfully > restraining any person, or for putting any person in fear of hurt, or of > assault, or of wrongful restraint, shall be punished with imprisonment of > either description for a term which may extend to seven years, and shall also > be liable to fine. > 353- Assault or criminal force to deter public servant from discharge of his > duty- Whoever assaults or uses criminal force to any person being a public > servant in the execution of his duty as such public servant, or with intent > to prevent or deter that person from discharging his duty as such public > servant, or in consequence of anything done or attempted to be done by such > person in the lawful discharge of his duty as such public servant, shall be > punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend > to two years, or with fine, or with both. > We were charged with the following offences: > Dear friends, many of us agree that the Jana Gana Mana singing was > unnecessary and distracting. It happened in an unpremeditated way, and was > not to our liking⦠but once someone in our large group started singing, we > felt that the only gracious thing to do was stand at attention and join in. > We could not stop him midway by poking his ribs or kicking his shin, could > we? >  Our conduct as a group may at worst be described as inappropriate or > unruly. However, does this justify the serious charges levelled against us > viz. assault, rioting, house-trespass etc? Does this justify the police > harassment? > The response by Dr Joshi and the police was out of proportion.. . a bit like > throwing someone into jail for crossing the road when the light was red. > Don't you think so? > Warmly, > Krish > 98215 88114 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
