Dear Leslie and Satish-ji

It goes without saying that the ISSUE is very serious and must not be 
trivialised.

We must first be clear on what the ISSUE is:- By general consensus it seems to 
be:-

A) RTI ACT has been rendered IMPOTENT by the Information Commissions.

B) That PIOs and Public Authorities have no respect for RTI Act (and thereby 
the citizens) because they know that the Info Commissioners will NORMALLY not 
take action against them, or let them off with a tap on the wrist.

If this is indeed the problem then there are only 2 (and I repeat ONLY 2) ways 
to sort out this problem

1) Believe that the system CAN work: This means to Work within the law, within 
the departmental system, to explore all bureaucratic remedies. Remembering at 
every stage that RTI is not an end in itself BUT only the first step in a 
longer struggle. I am very sorry to say that 90%+ of our members will not use 
this route properly - because it is not an easy path.

2) When option 1 fails (and after you have given the system chance to redress 
your grievance fairly) you must seek FULL measures OUTSIDE THE LAW to achieve 
your objectives. Let the families of every IC feel the pain which the ordinary 
citizen suffers.

There is no halfway house. Half-baked Gandhian tactics and satyagraha never 
works.

Sarbajit




--- In [email protected], LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2...@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with what S.K.Kapoor Says, Theses activtist are not goondas, 
> but trying their best in bring about transperency and acountability in the 
> working of  SIC, we cannot go on assumptions, I have personally experienced 
> the Soft peddling of SIC's on PIO's
> the harrowing experiences that applicants go through when they attend 
> hearings at SIC
> office, theses RTI could have walked away, as Suresh Joshi had left the 
> office 
> the complain was filed by the staff of Sursh Joshi, andf not by Suresh Joshi 
> who was the affected party, which is bad in Law, the Delhi H.C. order posted 
> by you and appreciated
> by many activists/applicants got the ball rolling.
> theses activist do not have anything to do with CIC Sailesh Gandhi. and are 
> not his stooges, .Yo are a highly educated man, and no activist can meet 
> your caliber, but please be polite, 
>  
> Rgds
> L.Almeida
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Satish Kumar Kapoor <kapoorsat...@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Satish Kumar Kapoor <kapoorsat...@...>
> Subject: Re: [rti_india] Re: Fw: [rti4empowerment] 48-hour Jail Experience 
> Part I
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 8:34 AM
> 
> Dear Mr Sarabjit
> I do not agree that RTI activitist are "goons". FACT IS THAT INFORMATION 
> COMMISSIONERS ARE "GOONS". So many information seekers are ill treated, 
> threatend by these IC "goons" who abuse there powers.
>  
> I have faced this type of treatment in CIC. In complaint against SEBI PIO, IC 
> Mr Tiwari, during hearing not only misbehaved, but dismissed just writting 
> that there is no truth in my complaint.
>  
> when I asked for allegations which are false so that I can lead evidence, I 
> was not given opportunity, I asked for rehearing, that was also not granted. 
> IS THIS NOT GOONDAISM AND ABUSE OF POWERS?
>  
> I HAVE COME ACROOS SO MANY CASES OF ABUSE OF POWERS BY THESE "GOONS"
>  
> S.K.KAPOOR


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