Dear Sarbajit ji I do not think any body has disputed poll results. Yes file notings is very complex issue, but the people like you who have been Govt also know, how important this is in arriving decision, as regards to fear of this group that it may victimise honest officers, atleast I am not able to understand, you may give some examples so that members understand the issue.
Satish ________________________________ From: sroy1947 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 12:31:27 AM Subject: [rti_india] Re: Poll results for rti_india Dear Satishji, Mr Rajput, Mr Singhal etc. The issue of disclosure of "file notings" via RTI is extremely complex. It is so complex that even ICs like Mr ANT and Mr SM have taken contradictory positions in and out of DoPT and CIC respectively. I would just like to bullet a few points for further discussion:- 1) At this group we do not moderate or prevent any member from posting freely or casting their votes freely. I would really like to know if even a single member (having Yahoo ID) amongst us was prevented from voting on this issue OR having voted found that his vote was not correctly registered (it is for precisely this reason that votes are disclosed immediately after a member has voted). 2) Simply stated the 6th Principle for the "ethical" members of this group means:- a) Patriotic citizens ought not to use RTI to frustrate the working of our Government, AND b) Disclosure of file notings via RTI will hinder working of Government by engendering victimisation and harassment of honest and efficient officers. 3) The results are before us, every effort was made to ensure that as many people voted and that a good discussion took place before and also *during* the voting. The democratic collective wishes of the membership should be respected gracefully. Sarbajit --- In rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com, Satish Kumar Kapoor <kapoorsatish@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Mr Roy > > I agree with Mr Sanil, I do not find any reason for terming people favouring > disclosure of file notings as un-patriotic rather people who say that file > notings should not be disclosed, are killing RTI. > > Satish > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Sanil Narayanan Nampoothiry <nns...@...> > To: rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 7:24:55 AM > Subject: Re: [rti_india] Re: Poll results for rti_india > > > Dear Mr. Roy, > Please don't stamp us as non patriotic, un ethical and irresponsible > citizens. We cannot find anything wrong with access to file notings using > RTI. You are free to differ. BUT WE ARE PATRIOTIC AND RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS. > > Regards > > ---Sanil > > --- On Tue, 3/11/09, sroy1947 <sroy1...@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > >From: sroy1947 <sroy1...@yahoo. com> > >Subject: [rti_india] Re: Poll results for rti_india > >To: rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com > >Date: Tuesday, 3 November, 2009, 10:24 AM > > > > > > > >Dear Group > > > >I am glad to know that we have so many patriotic, ethical and responsible > >members in our midst. > > > >In short, and by extrapolation, this group (by a 3:1 ratio) continues to > >oppose irresponsible RTIers who access "file notings" using RTI process. > > > >Sarbajit > > > >--- In rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com, rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com wrote: > >> > >> > >> The following rti_india poll is now closed. Here are the > >> final results: > >> > >> > >> POLL QUESTION: I vote to delete principle 6 from this group's Code for > >> Ethical RTIers. > >> > >> The principle reads as follows: > >> > >> > > "vi) To appreciate that the "Right to Information" ought not to be used > >> by patriotic citizens so as to obstruct the working of their > >> Government, or to victimise honest and efficient officers etc. by > >> allowing access to "file notings"." > >> > >> VOTE: YES to delete this clause, NO to retain it, UNDECIDED if no opinion. > >> > >> CHOICES AND RESULTS > >> - NO, 26 votes, 72.22% > >> - UNDECIDED, 1 votes, 2.78% > >> - YES, 9 votes, 25.00% > >> > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the Yahoo! India Homepage! >
