Hi sarbajitr,

I perfectly agree with your contention. such misused should be curtailed.

Best Regards - Mohammed Afzal, Mumbai.

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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:24 PM, sarbajitr <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Dear NEN
>
> 1) Democracy does not give an individual or group the right to appropriate
> all the limited resources for oneself or one's group.
>
> 2) If an individual files 300 RTI's since 2006 (FYI: I have probably only
> filed about 20 since 2002) and who then whinges that he is being targeted
> (Duuh !!!), responsible NGOs (like NEN ?) should disabuse such deluded
> people and set them on the right track. Unfortunately the NGOS involved are
> more interested in demonstrating that RTI is not working - at the behest of
> their foreign puppet / pay / spy masters.
>
> 3) I shall give you one example. A Mr Prashant Garg of East of kaliash
> Delhi, filed a total of 119 RTIs in the span of 2 months to about 5 P/As of
> Delhi, on the same question "Why was a bus stop erected outside my house?".
> Of course as democratic citizen of India he has a "right" to do so. All of
> them reached the CIC in 2nd Appeal / Complaint. Over 20+ separate hearings
> (in 119 registered cases) were held between Mr Habibullah and Mr Tiwari. IC
> Tiwari was so frustrated that he passed an order saying that this was a
> totally frivolous case emanating from a completely "vexatious" and
> "frivolous" applicant AND THAT NO FURTHER REPLIES WERE TO BE GIVEN TO HIM BY
> THE P/AS CONCERNED.
>
> 4) In the meantime, Mr Habibullah's office had issued show-cause notices to
> many PIOs including to Mr Dependra Pathak (Addl Commissioner Police HQ -
> Delhi) who claimed he had "forwarded" it to to the PIO of the Traffic
> Police. Mr Pathak showed up for the hearing accompanied by about 10 senior
> officers who informed Mr Habibullah that if any adverse order was passed
> against Mr Pathak his life was not worth 2 matches. A scape-goat (a very
> junior ASI) was propped up so that Mr Pathak could walk. I assisted him in
> his defence, stating that a) Delhi Police being a "single public authority"
> Mr Pathak could not "transfer" the RTI requests to another PIO. b) Mr Pathak
> could only seek the assistance of any other officer - but that individual
> could not further seek assistance of anyone else (or to render that person
> liable for penalty), c) That Mr Tiwari had clearly issued orders that no
> further action was to be taken for Mr Prashant Garg's RTIs (and the same
> should be located and published on CIC website so that there is no dispute).
>
> 5) It has been aver 18 months now. Mr Habibullah has failed to pass any
> orders in this case. His officers are demanding heavy bribes to pass a
> decision. So lets analyse the consequences of excessive RTIing
>
> a) It breeds and fosters corruption
>
> b) Ordinary, responsible citizens are denied their ENTAILMENTS.
>
> c) Ordinary coitizens are branded as "activists", "troublemakers",
> "vexatious", and "frivolous".
>
> d) Parliament / Govt demands that vexatious and frivolous applicants should
> be muzzled.
>
> e) The NGO crowd are very happy because they have a new (self created)
> issue to further rouse the public and convert them to whichever brand of
> separationism they front for.
>
> f) We waste the time of this forum with non-issues.
>
> So Dear "NEN", if you have to say something useful about RTI here please do
> so, this group is not a dumping ground for messages CCed to Hum Janenge or
> anti-bribery or all those other Yahoo groups populated by the pests of RTI.
>
> FYI, I also have Assamese blood.
>
> Sarbajit
>
>
> --- In [email protected] <rti_india%40yahoogroups.com>, "Assam
> NEN" <assam...@...> wrote:
> >
> > Mr. Sarbajit,
> >
> > Firstly, RTI is a democratic legal tool which can be used for getting any
> information by any citizen from public authority. Its a public
> accountability tool for any grievance issue.
> > Secondly, you cannot brand anyone as extra-constitutional actors or
> agencies just because you disagree with them.
> >
> > Thirdly, what is worse that you are stretching it to issues which concern
> the North East with its diverse communities whereas an issue of corruption
> can be raised by any citizen from any part of India.
> >
> > From NEN.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: sarbajit roy
> > To: [email protected] <rti_india%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 3:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [rti_india] Request for help
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Assam NEN
> >
> > The person whose story is being recounted is not a member of this group.
> It is not good practice to circulate unsubstantiated rumors and allegations
> for 3rd parties over a *PUBLIC* forum like RTI_India..
> >
> > The fact that this individual has filed 300+ RTI applications and is
> being targeted is precisely what concerns us. These are the so-called RTI
> activist misusers creating problems for ordinary citizens who use RTI
> occasionally for their own private purposes and not to get "certificates"
> from RTI touts and haraamis owing fealty to the NCPRI.
> >
> > In any case, now that the activist has reported the matter to the Police
> and taken his FIR, he will surely now get the peace his actions have brought
> upon him. Assam is now a violence affected state, the majority of these
> activists are aligned to the n-# of non-State armed factions, Ulfa , Sulfa,
> Chakma, Bodo, Naga etc etc.
> >
> > Sarbajit
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Assam NEN <assam...@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > This is a recent case of threat to an activist working on RTI issues in
> > Darrang district of Assam.Do keep note and help in whatever way you can.
> >
> > Threat to RTI Activists Mr.Mati Ram Nath
> >
> > Sir/Madam,
> >
> > I am Mati Ram Nath aged: 40years hailing from Garoimara village under
> > Sipajhar Police Station of Darrang Dist. of Assam. My occupation is
> > cultivation.
> >
>
>  
>

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