Mr Ashish,

1. The Karnataka High Court has already ruled in 2007 that the SIC has judicial 
powers but the SIC cannot be equated to a civil court. The question being 
decided by the Court was whether SIC can be made a party to a writ before the 
HC. SIC/CIC seem to be "quasi-judicial" bodies akin to tribunals. The powers of 
a Civil Court are vested in the SIC/CIC for the specific purpose of conducting 
inquiry under Sec 18 and limited to 18(3)(a) to (f).

2. High Court prescribing Rules: No doubt, the Rule making power is vested with 
the "competent authority" under Sec 27. "Competent Authority" is defined in Sec 
2(e) and Sec 2(e)(iii) states: 
iii)the Chief Justice 
of the High Court in the case of a High Court;
Therefore the rule making power of the CJ of High Court is restricted only to 
the High Court and not to subordinate Courts.
In other judicial or administrative matters, the CJ might have powers to do 
such things as may be prescribed, in relation to subordinate courts. But as far 
as the RTI Act is concerned, he does not have any powers to frame Rules for 
subordinate courts. 
Similarly, I doubt whether the CJ of a High Court has powers to designate PIO's 
of subordinate courts - which nearly all CJ's of High Courts have already done 
(and also incorrectly designated them as CPIO's !)

The Court Fee Act or any other Act might give powers to High Courts to frame 
Rules, but the rule making power vis-a-vis the RTI Act has to flow from the RTI 
Act itself and restricted to only those powers that are conferred specifically 
by this very Act.

3. Sec 19(5): Till this day not even a single
 commissioner in the CIC or the APSIC, has ever agreed (or invoked) Sec 19(5) 
in spite of specific written prayers and oral submissions. For them, taking 
evidence is only restricted to a Complaint made under Sec 18. And you very well 
know that most IC's in the CIC and nearly all IC's in SIC's, hate complainants 
who approach them directly under Sec 18, without first exhausting Sec 19(1), 
even if any clause from 18(1)(a) to (f) is directly applicable. It is only in 
2009, that APSIC started admitting Complaints...till then they were just 
"returned".

But getting back to the main issue:

4. I am not disputing the right of any government to charge for any "services" 
that they are providing. What I am trying to discuss is whether the appropriate 
government or the competent authority has powers to prescribe fees for first 
and second appeals and if such fees can be justifiably prescribed under the RTI 
act.

5. Once again, I repeat, that if the
 legislative intent was that fees had to be charged for first and second 
appeals, then Sec 19(1) and 19(3) would have specifically mentioned 
"...accompanied by prescribed fees", just like sec 6(1), 7(1), 7(3) and 7(5) do 
so. Then the prescribing of such fees would be perfectly valid since the word 
"prescribed" is defined in Sec 2(g):
g)"prescribed" means 
prescribed by rules made under this Act by the appropriate Government or
 the competent authority, as the case may be;      


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf

Of ashish kr1965

Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:56 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: [rti_india] Re: Fee for First and Second Appeals



Similarly, at the Central level, the DoPT has notified a) "Fee and Cost

Rules", b)"CIC Appeal Procedure Rules", neither of which set a fee/cost for

filing second appeals. The mere fact that a fee for filing second appeal has

not been prescribed does not mean that such fee cannot be prescribed.



The business of the Information Commissions consist of a) receiving and

enquiring into complaints from any person b) deciding appeals. It is

indisputable that the Information Commissions enjoy the legal power to take

evidence, directly by the RTI Act for complaint process and indirectly via

rules for appeal process. As such the proceedings of the Commissions may be

considered as "judicial proceedings" of a "Court" under section 3 of the

Evidence Act.



For instance the Court Fee Act of 1870 additionally allows the High Court to

prescribe court fees for itself and all subordinate courts, such as for

service of process etc. Hence there is no requirement for the RTI Act to

additionally confer such rule making power for the Courts.



The DoPT for instance has conferred the power to take evidence upon the CIC

despite the fact that the RTI Act does not explicitly say so.

However, by 19(5) the CPIO is required to :"prove" the information denial in

"all appeal proceedings". This therefore triggers the requirement in law for

all appellates to take evidence, hence their proceedings are deemed to be

that of a "court".



It is by now very well settled that if a law requires the Government to do

something (such as running hospitals) then the Government is fully empowered

to recover costs (fully or partially) from the users either directly (as

costs) or indirectly (as fees). The fees / costs must be "reasonable"







Ashish












           





 

  
  
  



     




     

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