Dear Mr sarbajit

Need your guidance on one of the ruling of CIC which i feel, contravenes 
various 
High court rulings, CIC own rulings. I have tried to get help on below case 
from 
others but not encouraging response so far .. request if u can advise on below 

i have filled an RTI application to Deppt of Education for providing me some 
info related to admission procedure + admitted candidate of a private 
recognised 
school in delhi. 

DOE replied that 2 questions of RTI cant be replied since school do not furnish 
the req info under Delhi school act and they dont have information available.

In my 1st appeal i advise FAA auth that information can be called for under 
section 2(f) and supported my case with lots of High court, CIC, SC rulings but 
FAA didnt recognized those. 

i filled the 2nd appeal at CIC and during hearing all my arguments etc were set 
aside by commission and IC rulled that if information is not available with DOE 
then nothing can be done and passed a rulling that Commission do not agree with 
this plea( plea of section 2(f) given by appellant) and the information which 
under law or rules is expected to be held by the public authority is the 
information that has to be provided under RTI 

IC have not taken notice of gravity of case , the use of info req in the 
benefit 
of public as said school was discriminating on admission procedure and were 
favoring candidates which was against DOE guidelines. Information needed to 
usher transparency but IC overruled all arguments.

Surprisingly on section 2(f) various important decisions have been given to 
facilitated transparency,as follows 

1.Decision of Delhi High court --- WRIT PETITION (CIVIL) NO. 7265 OF 2007- 
POORNA PRAJNA PUBLIC SCHOOL vs CENTRAL Information COMMISSION 

2.Appeal No. CIC/WB/A/2007/00315 dated 20-3-2007 -- Shri Ramesh N. Gandhi, 
Ulhasnagar vs Hq. SWAC, Gandhinagar (Guj) , Decision given by Shri Wajjat 
Habibullah on dated 1-8-2008 

3.Appeal: No. CIC/OK/A/2006/00127-- Shri Jehangir B. Gai vs Bureau of Secondary 
Education, decision given by Shri O.P Kejriwal on dated : 21st July, 2006. 

4.Appeal F.No.CIC/AT/A/2008/01083 ---Shri Bhoj Raj Sahu vs Securities and 
Exchange Board of India (SEBI), dated 25th May, 2009

5.Decision No.714/IC(A)/2007 F. No.CIC/MA/A/2007/00104 Dated, the 18th May, 
2007.and Decision No. 1231 /IC(A)/2007 -- Shri D.K. Chopra vs Directorate of 
Education, GNCT of Delhi- Decision by Shri M.M Ansari 

6.Appeal No. 914/SIC-ASR/2006, order given by Andhra Pradesh State Information 
Commissioner Case between N. Subba Rao (President, Bapatla Engineering College 
Non-Teaching Staff Association) and the Principal, Bapatla Engineering College, 
Bapatla Excerpts of the order include: 

7.CIC/WB/A/2007/00179 dated 14-2-2007 : Complainant: Shri Abid Khan vs 
Directorate of Education, GNCT Delhi, ordered given by Sh. Wajjat Habibullah 

The above judgement supported section 2(f) for ushering transparency. DOE has 
power under section 50 of Delhi school act to call for any information from 
school if required .

I am wondering why IC overruled all these aspects. 

Further,in ref to my other RTI with DOE, show cause notice was issued to 
PIO/deemed PIO for not providing information on time.

On the day of show cause notice i was present but i was not called for hearing 
since deemed PIO was absent and only PIO was present.. i was told that IC has 
recently issued penalty on deemed PIO and IC will decide whether to issue show 
cause again to deemed PIO for appearance or to close file without levying 
penalty and this will take some time may be next 4 -5 days.. i spent my 2 hours 
waiting in the reception area and after that i was told such feedback which was 
again not acceptable since there was clear cut case of penalty

request members to suggest me on these 2 issues

regards
Mohit Goel




________________________________
From: sarbajitr <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 7 July, 2010 11:52:47 PM
Subject: [rti_india] Re: Open Letter to Mr Habibullah in File 
"CIC/WB/C/2010/000155"

  
Dear Bhaskar

It is nice to know that IC(SG) still has some supporters left.

What you are using is the same type of "statistical" exercise
to prove that Shailesh Gandhi is a "good" Information Commissioner
that the PCRF used for their last RTI Awards, and which was universally 
lambasted. 


FYI

1) There are 3 kinds of untruths - lies, damn lies and statistics.

2) Statistics are like a bikini top - showing everything yet revealing nothing.

3) Statistics are like whores, play with them long enough and they'll do 
anything for you.

4) All dogs are animals , All cats are animals,  Therefore, all dogs are cats

Now let me explain a few things to you

1) IC(SG)'s orders are pathetic. They are cyclostyled pieces of garbage of the 
fill-in-the-blanks variety. The blanks are filled in by his private interns who 
are are even worse than Arvind Kejriwal's "assessors" if such a thing is 
possible.
If you don't believe me, read these 2 latest orders of his on CIC website which 
I picked at random (the 1st two on "recent decsions of CIC today)
http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_SG_A_2010_001374_8434_M_37419.pdf
http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_SG_A_2010_001426_8433_M_37418.pdf

2) Appellant's / Complainants do not get a fair hearing before him. The main 
reason for this is that he has already prepared the order before the hearing. 
In 
any case what sort of arguments can a person make in the 5 minutes alloted to 
them - 2 minutes for appellant, 2 minutes for PIO and 1 minute to print out the 
order. By this logic he should be delivering 100 decisions , ie 2,200 in a 
month 
- he is only doing 420 ?? Sorry 419.25 !!!

3) Awarding penalty routinely is NOT a good thing. It is like a quack
doctor who gives antiobiotic+steroid for every patient. Only illiterate people 
get fooled by such tamasha. Unfortunately we have too many such illiterates in 
this world.

4) Many of SG's stupid decisions have been stayed / struck down in the High 
Court.

5) We all know the reasons his office has been digitised, and they have nothing 
to do with efficiency.

6) Lastly, I think you are confused - the purpose of RTI Act is not to give 
"justice" but to provide information to those who deserve it.

Sarbajit

--- In [email protected], Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarma...@...> wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
> 
> Disposals from IC Shailesh Gandhi. This information may be allergy to some
> of the board members but can"t help it:
> 
> From October 2008 to June 2010- 21 months.
> Total disposal 8805.
> Number of cases in which compensation awarded 32.
> Number of penalties imposed 178  amounting to Rs. 33 lakhs.
> One and nly commissioner with Average disposal of 419.25 per month
> 
> Diogitalised his whole of office.
> 
> We have one person as IC who knows that justice delayed is justice denied.
> Kudos to him. I feel he can be recomanded to next CCIC, again this will be
> allergy to some board members.
> 
> Bhaskar Prabhu
> Convenor
> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>


 

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