Dear Irfan, This board is read also by some bureaucrats who are friends of some of the members in the group. I will not be surpridsed if some of member has given the printout of the msg posted to ANT and/or by a person who patronises ANT might have informed or given a printout of the postings.
Bhaskar On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:31 PM, sarbajit roy <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Dear Irfan / Group > > This is NOT a "private" forum. Be very clear on this. Every message posted > to this group is being archived by multiple sources, some of which are > publicly accessible over the internet. > In addition being hosted on Yahoo, there are Terms of Service > conditionalities attached. > > For the legal position, please see our group homepage > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti_india/ > <extract> > "This publicly accessible (and essentially uncensored) group is a facility > of convenience, and archives > <http://www.nabble.com/RTI-India-f28814.html>private email messages > circulated amongst members concerning RTI ACT and > decisions of various Information Commissions." > :: > *"DISCLAIMER:* Being "essentially uncensored", legal liability (if any) > for posts to this mailing list rests with the individual members in their > territorial jurisdictions /laws." > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti_india/message/1113 > <extract> > " The rationale behind this is that RTI_India is publicly accessible and > unmoderated whereas the other mailing lists are not. Consequently we > have higher standards to uphold." > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti_india/message/1108 > <extract> > "We cannot tolerate such abuse of our group's soft moderation policy. > Our group functions on the principle of mutual trust, ie a member once > admitted is presumed to practice self moderation and respect the > objectives of the group." > > Sarbajit > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:44 AM, irfan khan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> this is a privat forum . i think CIC have no business peeping into private >> forums .Political parties shout in house of the floor "Gali Gali me shor hai >> . Rajive gandhi Chor hai " But no one sees contemt here . >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Ramnarayan.K <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> This is interesting. >>> >>> Umapathi ji, sorry i don't have immediate advice on how to proceed >>> with what you should do. However your mail itself has raised some >>> issues which are in between or below your mail. >>> >>> >>> On 8/26/10, umapathi <[email protected] <umi_sbs%40yahoo.com>> wrote: >>> > Dear Members, I wish to bring to the kind notice of all members of this >>> > Group that I have received a notice from CIC regarding initiation of >>> > contempt proceedings under section 10 of contempts of courts Act 1971. >>> The >>> > reason for this is my posting on this group wherein I had complained >>> against >>> > the IC AN Tiwari ( pl see my earlier posting on the subject on 17th >>> August >>> > -2010 under the Thread "complaint of Misbehaviour against IC AN >>> TIWARI.) The >>> > printout of the said postings made on this Group website is also >>> enclosed >>> > by CIC with Notice. According to them , the last two sentence of the >>> said >>> > posting constiutes contempt of Courts.the same is reprodcued here " Now >>> > they are acting as a corrupt public servants. It is high time, such >>> > information commissioner should be exposed to public of their corrupt >>> > motives. >>> >>> So mails from / on this list, which apart from being public, are also >>> being brought to the notice of the CIC , and i suppose other >>> "intelligence" authorities. >>> >>> My larger concern here is that such info, while not private, would >>> still need to be brought to the notice of the "said" authoriries. >>> Which would also mean we have reverse whistle blowers on the list or >>> the said IC's are monitoring the activities of this list. Which in >>> turn mean that people ought to be more careful about what they say and >>> plan while on the list. >>> >>> >>> > >>> > I have been directed to submit reply within seven days or tender an >>> > unconditional apology within seven days to IC AN Tiwari. In this >>> connection, >>> > kindly suggest your views and opinions regarding the legality of CIC >>> notice >>> > of contempt proceedings.Can our fundamental right to speech and >>> expression >>> > be curtailed by CIC by initiating the contempt proceedings on us ? can >>> CIC >>> > exercise such power? please suggest your views so that same can be >>> > incorporated in my reply to CIC. Regards. >>> >>> What are the provisions of this "fundamental freedom of speech" where >>> does that end and where does contempt begin. >>> >>> Regarding what the IC can and can't do am sure the other better >>> informed people will advise better. >>> >>> However a few questions (please excuse use of words that are not >>> judicially appropriate) >>> 1. Are the precedents of IC / CIC contempt of court actions >>> 2. What will the "punishment" for contempt of court involve >>> 3. What is the applicability of Contempt of court - if the IC / CIC >>> cannot implement this can they in turn be made actionable for >>> "illegal" actions. >>> >>> ram >>> >>> >> > >
