On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Dresner, Norman A. wrote:

>
> Ah, that life were that simple, I'd probably be out of a job in favor of one
> or two less experienced programmers.
>
> Of course, that's the goal, but it's not always possible to do perfect error
> recovery, nor do I write bug-free code the first time.  Maybe if you do, I
> could convince my employer to offer you a position when I retire.

That wouldn't be half-bad.

>
>       Norm
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Calin A. Culianu [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Monday, October 29, 2001 9:28 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject:    RE: [rtl] Follow-up:  checking a pthread-ID
> >
> >
> > Why do you need to check thread validity anyway?  Write your program in
> > such a way so that you don't constantly have to second-guess your
> > pointers, is what I always say...
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Dresner, Norman A.  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I can't believe that I'm the only one facing this problem.  Could we
> > agree
> > > on the name of a future library routine or preprocessor macro that will
> > be
> > > provided for validity checking which I could use in the near-term with
> > my
> > > own code?
> > >
> > >   Norm
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:   Victor Yodaiken [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent:   Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:12 PM
> > > > Cc:     rtlinux
> > > > Subject:        Re: [rtl] Follow-up:  checking a pthread-ID
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 08:56:14PM -0400, Norm Dresner wrote:
> > > > > While browsing the code in v3.0's rtl_sched.c &
> > > > > rtl_sched.h, I found that, within the RTL context, a
> > > > > pthread_t points to a structure of type rtl_thread_struct
> > > > > which contains an int-item magic and that a "valid"
> > > > > rtl_thread_struct will have this value equal to the
> > > > > constant RTL_THREAD_MAGIC.
> > > > >
> > > > > How safe is it to assume that this will always be the case
> > > > > and that I can implement a thread validity check with
> > > > >     #define    rtlTHREAD_VALID( th )
> > > > > ( (th)->magic ) == RTL_THREAD_MAGIC )
> > > > > and be safe if I -- or another programmer who takes over
> > > > > program maintenance from me in the unspecified future
> > > > > upgrades to a newer version of rtl?
> > > >
> > > > Not safe at all!  If you hide the implementation well, that's ok
> > > > since there should always be a way to check or at least semi-check
> > > > validity, but I hope to move pthread_t to something else in the next
> > > > year or two - it is an opaque type for a reason.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     Thanks
> > > > >         Norm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Norm Dresner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: rtlinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: checking a pthread-ID
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > According to the map-page, pthread_wakeup_np always
> > > > > returns
> > > > > > a zero value and consequently can't be used to determine
> > > > > if
> > > > > > the target thread in fact no longer exists.  I have two
> > > > > > questions:
> > > > > >     1. What -- if anything -- will happen if the thread
> > > > > has
> > > > > > been destroyed, i.e. either it has executed
> > > > > pthread_exit()
> > > > > > or some other process/thread has already killed it with
> > > > > > pthread_delete_np()?
> > > > > >     2. Is there any safe function to call to verify that
> > > > > > the target of a pthread_t still is a valid thread?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > >     Norm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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