Many thanks for the replies - very helpful. One other thing I want to
get straight - Which is technically correct (With Respect to the latest
RT-Linux):
1) One Process over all with several threads running inside it (Would
seem the most likely given the POSIX thread concept. Where one is Linux
2) Several processes running on the RTL kernel, where the idle one is
Linux.
I just wonder because it seems as though the two are kinda mixed when I
read documents on RTL.
Thanks and Regards
Mark
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Kavaler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>I think that RTLinux is better thought of as hierarchical, where the
>RTLinux scheduler is at the top
>of the hierarchy, and regular Linux runs as a one process (but of lowest
>priority) at the next
>level of the hierarchy. Other processes of higher priority can be added at
>that level using the RTLinux call pthread_create. The third level of the
>hierarchy depends on the parent. In the case of Linux, it has
>its own schedulers in the kernel and of course in user space. It is
>possible that other RT or non-RT programs have their own subschedulers too.
>
>The use of insmod to create RT Tasks is just a convenience. From a memory
>allocation perspective, RT Tasks are kernel resident so insmod is a great
>way of loading them into memory. But one of the first
>things that pthread_create does is go into RTLinux mode (i.e. disables all
>interrupts) and adds itself to the RTLinux thread list.
>
>Here is a picture:
>
> RTLinux
> --------------------------------------
> | | |
> Linux Kernel RT Task1 RT Task2 (with sub-scheduler)
>
> --------------- ---------------------
> | | | |
> Linux Tasks User Tasks Sub Task Sub Task
>
>
>
>Robert Kavaler
>
>
>Mark wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm just trying to figure out how to visualise what going on
>> when RT-Linux is running. I'm a bit confused trying to figure out how an
>> RT Linux system fits together.
>>
>> For me, with a normal Linux kernel, I think of is running a number of
>> individual processes. When threads turn up in Linux (VMS or Windoze for
>> that matter) I think of it as being a separate execution sequence (It
>> own memory etc.) BUT it is with in a process. That is it can only get a
>> chance to run when the process is switched into the CPU AND that thread
>> within the particular process is chosen to execute.
>>
>> With RT-Linux is there only ONE process on the system. Is then has a
>> number of threads inside it (One of which is the Linux Kernel). Then to
>> start a RTL program off you have to insmod it into the single process?
>>
>> I would have a problem if RTL just ran normal processes, where the idle
>> process was the Linux Kernel. Indeed this is what I though happened,
>> judging by some of the documents. But the thread stuff seems to
>> contradict this. Has it been updated in some way.
>>
>> Maybe there is a diagram around showing this. As yet I haven't seen on.
>> On my webpage I've put, what I think is going on. If someone could take
>> a look and tell me if I way off (Most likely:) of what ever. I'd really
>> appreciate it.
>>
>> http://www.mxnet.demon.co.uk/RT-Linux/RTLinux.html
>>
>> Many Thanks
>>
>> Mark
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