Hi Petro and Raul,

it was interesting for me to follow your conversation. I just want to be sure 
if I understand the ActiveRecord validation correctly and need a confirmation 
of the following:

Validation is called only when an object is persisted to the relational DB, 
never with object creation / modification in memory.
The :on parameter can have following three values:
:on => :create - is called only for persistence of a NEW object - creation 
(memory -> database)
:on => :update - is called only for persistence of already earlier persisted 
object - modification
:on => :save - is called in both situation described above

Is that correct?

By the way, my first approach was to store name, age and hobby separately to 
the session. The idea with the object creation (in memory) and storing the 
whole object seems to me very elegant.

Ales

> ------------ Původní zpráva ------------
> Od: raul parolari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Předmět: [rails-development] Re: 5526 - Action Controller Basics - Homework
> Datum: 29.10.2008 15:45:46
> ----------------------------------------
> Hi, Pietro,
> 
> > now I'm a better rails citizen ;-)
> 
> Me too; I had no idea that we could do an "intermediate validation" (and
> without creating the object) using ActiveRecord. It was just a few emails
> back that I was trying to cast your interpretation of the requirements as "*ad
> litteram*" (Lol!). Ad litteram my foot; you were just right.
> 
> > If you happen to travel here in northern Italy...
> 
> Thank you so much. I was born there (a bit up north from you, Tione di
> Trento); wine (not to mention food) is fantastic.
> As for the beer, one is waiting for me in Szczecin (Poland), from Pawell, so
> I will be fine..:-).
> 
> To more intelligent discussions (and fluids.. :-)
> 
> Raul
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Pietro Maggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:09 AM, raul parolari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >   yes, this is an interesting misunderstanding. When we study Ruby, we
> > may
> > > have a class Player, and when we do:
> > >
> > >    lionel = Player.new(:name => "messi", :team => "barcelona", ...)
> > >
> > > we say that we have created an object of the class Player.
> > >
> > > But it is different in ActiveRecord (AR); the word creation means
> > "creating
> > > in the database". AR does not care about much about our u=User.new(); but
> > it
> > > cares when we save that user u! that is the moment of the "creation"...
> > >
> > [SNIP]
> >
> > Yep, I initially mixed them up. After a bit of reading I finally got
> > it and now I'm a better rails citizen ;-)
> >
> > Thanks again Raul
> > If you happen to travel here in norther Italy* I'll happily offer you
> > some tasty wine (the usual way of say how much someone appreciate your
> > help, it's to offer a beer but, hey, I'm Italian ;-).
> >
> > Pietro
> >
> >
> > * I'm here:
> >
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lecco,+italy&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.310476,79.101563&ie=UTF8&g=lecco,+italy&t=h&ll=45.896699,9.30542&spn=0.682404,1.235962&z=10&iwloc=addr
> >
> 
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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