On Jan 17, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Hiroshi Nakamura wrote:

> Hi Nick,
> 
> You are right. Thanks for pointing this!
> 
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 01:01, Nick Quaranto <n...@quaran.to> wrote:
>> I'm not sure what to do about the cert stuff, but we do need OpenSSL
>> as a dependency since `gem push`, `gem owner`, and the like use SSL to
>> talk to rubygems.org. Unless if you prefer your passwords sent in the
>> clear. :)
> 
> I wrote too much. Sorry. I should have written;
> 
> - It's the only reason why rubygems depends on openssl *by default*,
> even if user doesn't want to use its feature. With removing 'cert'
> command, *some features of* rubygems gets openss free.
> 
> Users who want to push gem still needs openssl. And users who adds
> 'https://rubygems.org/' like me needs openssl to scan the central
> repository.
> 
> *For me*, it's more important that rubygems tries to require 'openssl'
> only when it's really needed, not by default. I know current rubygems
> doesn't depends on openssl. It works even if there's no openssl
> installed but this hidden dependency makes it harder for jruby to
> reduce startup time.


i think i already did this in the rubygems repo, didn't i?


> 
> Of course it's jruby and jruby-ossl issue and it's not a point of my
> proposal. If rubygems really has an openssl dependency, it's OK.
> Please consider other points I wrote regardless of this point. :)
> 
> Regards,
> // NaHi
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