On 12/8/06, Courtenay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FWIW, I didn't say to put extra methods in the model.  Hell no.
>
> I was suggesting  a layer between the model (or models) and the view
> which packages up certain methods, much like Liquid's Drops.

Thats essentially what the presenter pattern is, I believe.  So I
think you guys are talking about the same thing, its just a matter of
implementation.  I just ask to make it very easily testable w/i the
core framework -- helper_test_case is still somewhat of a hack.   I
think each layer should be testable out of the box, and right now
helpers are lacking in that respect.

related:
http://jayfields.blogspot.com/2006/09/rails-model-view-controller-presenter.html
http://www.martinfowler.com/eaaDev/PresentationModel.html

- rob

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