I'd like to see vbscript as the default, but I guess we can wait until Rails 3 ships first.
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Ryan Bigg <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 28 May 2010 07:24, Norman Clarke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Why? SQLite3 was made the default database in 2.0.2 and the world >> didn't stop. It's a change that affects people creating new Rails >> applications - not ones that have already been created. > > There's a big difference between changing the default database system and > changing the default javascript engine. For a very basic example: > Model.create will work the same on whatever database system you're using > where $('blog_1') will behave differently depending on the javascript > engine. > I see your point. >> >> I'm a big fan of jQuery too but maybe at this point it would be nice >> to take an issue off the core team's table. At the end of the day >> Rails 3 is still going to work great no matter what the default is. > > Indeed and I'll agree with Yehuda here. 3.0's gotta be out soon, right? >> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 17:59, Ryan Bigg <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I would not go changing this in a minor release. Major or bust. >> > >> > Ryan Bigg / Radar >> > >> > On 28/05/2010, at 1:58, Norman Clarke <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:45, Xavier Noria <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Yehuda Katz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> The idea that 16% of Rails users use jQuery is divorced from reality. >> >>> >> >>> But you are talking perceptions, and the sample talks numbers. >> >>> >> >>> Of course 16% has to be taken with some margins, but you can't deny it >> >>> makes difficult to claim that the vast majority of Rails developers >> >>> use jQuery exclusively, which was the claim in (1). That is a strong >> >>> claim! (1 was originally stated as a feeling not a fact, that's fine). >> >>> >> >>> If the percent had been 84% then there would be no doubt about it, >> >>> right? But < 20%... dubious. >> >> >> >> This is why I stated that once Rails 3 comes out, it should be easier >> >> to get some "real" numbers on this, since presumably it will be just >> >> as easy for developers to use jQuery as it currently is to use >> >> Prototype, and those users >> >> who actively program in Javascript rather than just using the helpers >> >> will consciously decide to use one or the other. >> >> >> >> I would suggest it's a bit late to change the default option at this >> >> time, and if the decision is left for 3.1 it can easily be based at >> >> least in part on real-world numbers that nobody disputes. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Ryan Bigg / Radar > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
