Oh, another thing I've added which would be great to have built-in is
easily toggleable request logging, so you can see what's happening,
and warnings when requests look suspicious (e.g. missing a path
parameter).

On May 17, 10:35 am, Nick Urban <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm happy with whatever the consensus is (gem or core).
>
> I'd like to suggest we make a list of features which AR should have
> and doesn't and then we can figure out what sort of changes will
> support those features and not duplicate each other's efforts.
>
> The problems which I have had to deal with in my own code are:
> - converting to/from camel case
> - resource paths with no extension
> - being able to specify which attributes are sent instead of sending
> them all
>
> Wishlist:
> - Hooks!
> - Expand the power of the "schema" (possibly fold in the feature that
> lets you send / ignore certain attributes)
>
> I understand Markus is working on associations. Reactive Resource also
> adds associations.
>
> Ryan and Pierre, I'm curious what features you are adding.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
> On May 16, 12:12 pm, markusschwed <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello guys,
>
> > I'm working (with a friend of mine) on improving ActiveResource.
> > Currently, we work at this pull request and we're adding a belongs_to
> > method for finishing it:
>
> >https://github.com/rails/rails/pull/230
>
> > I would love to see that ActiveResource stay in Rails core and get
> > more attention by it's maintainers because it has a lot of potential
> > to become a really usefull piece of software,
> > but even if it get moved into a new gem we will continue developing on
> > it.
>
> > What do you guys think about it?
>
> > Greetz
> > Markus
>
> > On 16 Mai, 17:18, Jamie Rumbelow <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I'll offer to maintain it, I've been looking for a chance to get involved 
> > > with Rails in a better way. I'm a student stuck in the middle of exams 
> > > right now, but am starting a job heading up the dev team on a Ruby/Rails 
> > > project in a couple of months so will be involved heavily then. I know 
> > > the guys behind the new company really want to be contributing to open 
> > > source, and I certainly do, so they will be resources backed to helping 
> > > maintain it.
>
> > > How does this kind of thing usually work? Does it involve some kind of 
> > > interview, or is it just a "first come, first serve" take it or leave it 
> > > basis?
>
> > > Jamie
>
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>
> > > On Monday, 16 May 2011 at 16:14, Prem Sichanugrist wrote:
> > > > I've extracted it to another project and remove it from the Rails 
> > > > source yesterday. I sent the pull request and got closed right away.
>
> > > > So it seems like someone has to maintain it.
>
> > > > On May 16, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Nick Urban wrote:
>
> > > > > So this brings me back to my initial question: who is in charge of
> > > > > this right now? If we wanted to make a gem, as everyone seems to be
> > > > > suggesting, how would the transition happen?
>
> > > > > On May 13, 7:49 pm, Guillermo Iguaran <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > I totally agree, ActiveResource needs to be resurrected either 
> > > > > > within or out of the framework as independent project.
>
> > > > > > There is even a very interesting pull request (to add initial 
> > > > > > support for associations) waiting for review:
>
> > > > > >https://github.com/rails/rails/pull/230
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Guillermo Iguaran
>
> > > > > > On Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Nicolás Sanguinetti wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Ryan BIgg 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I'm working with ActiveResource at the moment and I do find it 
> > > > > > > > a bit lacking
> > > > > > > > personally. Having to implement the find_by_* methods myself is 
> > > > > > > > one of my
> > > > > > > > prime annoyances at the moment.
> > > > > > > > Perhaps a group of people could get together and work on fixing 
> > > > > > > > up the
> > > > > > > > annoyances people have with it?
>
> > > > > > > It'd be nice to get some input from the core team on this, but 
> > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > always seen ActiveResource as the "almost unused" part of rails. 
> > > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > useful (mostly) when you have another rails app providing the web
> > > > > > > service, and that's not always the case (when you don't, you 
> > > > > > > usually
> > > > > > > need to add enough glue around that it ends up being easier to use
> > > > > > > something else.)
>
> > > > > > > Has the core team thought about splitting ActiveResource out of 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > main rails framework, as ActionWebService did a while back?
>
> > > > > > > -foca
>
> > > > > > > > On Friday, 13 May 2011 at 9:14 AM, Paul Campbell wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > ActiveResource has always promised great things, but it's still
> > > > > > > > something of a dream.
>
> > > > > > > > I'd love to see some progress. Particularly against the context 
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > things like Paul Dix's book
> > > > > > > >http://www.amazon.com/Service-Oriented-Design-Rails-Addison-Wesley-Pr...
>
> > > > > > > > —P
>
> > > > > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Nick Urban 
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I don't have a good idea of the pros and cons of turning Active
> > > > > > > > Resource into a gem, but if that were to happen, it does seem 
> > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > Active Resource might become more free to evolve quickly and
> > > > > > > > independently of the rest of Rails. Perhaps someone who is more
> > > > > > > > knowledgeable could comment further.
>
> > > > > > > > Nick
>
> > > > > > > > On May 12, 3:54 pm, Prem Sichanugrist <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > [Disclaimer: I'm not a core team member]
>
> > > > > > > > I think if you would, It'd be great if you'd fork it and 
> > > > > > > > maintain it. I
> > > > > > > > don't really see much effort to it either, and I don't know how 
> > > > > > > > to *patch*
> > > > > > > > it since I'm not using it regularly.
>
> > > > > > > > I think I'd then try to convince the core team to remove it, 
> > > > > > > > and then
> > > > > > > > suggest people to use that gem instead.
>
> > > > > > > > - Prem
>
> > > > > > > > On 12 พ.ค. 2554, at 17:49, Nick Urban wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > There are a number of additional features I required for a 
> > > > > > > > current
> > > > > > > > project. I was able to solve some of these by using "Reactive
> > > > > > > > Resource" (https://github.com/justinweiss/reactive_resource) 
> > > > > > > > but many
> > > > > > > > I had to implement as override of various sorts. It seems like a
> > > > > > > > better solution would be to build some more flexibility into 
> > > > > > > > Active
> > > > > > > > Resource itself.
>
> > > > > > > > I notice that Active Resource hasn't really changed since 
> > > > > > > > 3.0.0. Is
> > > > > > > > anybody working on this right now? Is there a maintainer I 
> > > > > > > > should talk
> > > > > > > > to regarding potential patches?
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > > > > > Nick
>
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