I think we are not talking about add factories by default in the Rails, but about extract/remove fixtures.
We have a attempt to have the best of both words, that I think that can be added in the Rails. https://github.com/plataformatec/hermes/blob/master/lib/hermes/builders.rb#L1-79 And you are right Ken, factories are not slow, but the current implementation/usage of they are. Your solution seems solve these actual issues. Rafael Mendonça França http://twitter.com/rafaelfranca https://github.com/rafaelfranca On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Luís Ferreira <[email protected]> wrote: > Factories give a lot more functionality, including inheritance and get > really fancy when combined with stuff like Faker. I don't think that the > discussion here should be whether factories are useful or not, but if they > are a good enough value added to rails. > > I personally like the added functionality and expressability of factories > and do not mind the extra time it takes to run the tests. But in my opinion > what should really be taken in account is what we want someone that is just > starting to test with rails to be using. Are fixtures really the best way > to it? If so then maybe we could just add some reference in the > documentation to other ways of doing it (factories), if not then changing > the default to factories or extracting everything to separate gems and > leave it to the user would be two possible solutions, IMO. > > On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Rafael Mendonça França wrote: > > In my experience using factories are, at least, twice slower than using > fixtures. I always prefer to use fixtures. > > I don't see any real gain in removing it from Rails, neither extracting it > to a gem. > > Rafael Mendonça França > http://twitter.com/rafaelfranca > https://github.com/rafaelfranca > > > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Olek Janiszewski < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> I've noticed the trend of trimming the fat from Rails in preparation for >> version 4 (which I appreciate). >> >> Do you think it'd make sense to also remove the test fixtures engine from >> Rails 4? From what I've seen, it's now more common to use more advanced >> solutions, with FactoryGirl leading the pack, and it's usually more >> practical to use Ruby to define fixtures, rather than YAML. >> >> More specifically: >> >> - would the core team approve of such effort? >> - how much work would it mean? >> - (related) how tightly are fixtures actually used within Rails' tests? >> >> It's hard to me to estimate the overall value/cost ratio, but if it's >> high enough, I'd be willing to take a shot at it. >> >> -- >> Bye, >> Olek Janiszewski (exviva) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-core/-/MNYYrHc3b_gJ. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > Cumprimentos, > Luís Ferreira > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
