No, no, as/rails.rb is already required by the entry point
of every component (except AS). That is a given in the
context of a Rails application, and

    gem 'active_record'

does that if standalone.

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On 08/02/2013, at 18:12, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Em 08-02-2013 15:00, Xavier Noria escreveu:
>> 
>> Some very common files are loaded at the entry point of every component, to 
>> avoid repeating their require again and again:
>> 
>>     
>> https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/master/activesupport/lib/active_support/rails.rb
> 
> But shouldn't helpers.rb require 'active_support/rails' then instead of just 
> 'active_support/benchmarkable'?
> 
> Otherwise it should be documented that we're not supposed to require specific 
> parts of some libraries included in Rails... That way I'd know (although 
> surprised) that I'm not supposed to require 
> 'action_view/helpers/number_helper' but simply 'action_view/helpers' (or just 
> 'action_view'?)
> 
>> 
>> As for the autoload + include, I don't really know, maybe it is a fancy way 
>> to avoid writing a file path. Seems unnecessary to me at first glance. Maybe 
>> someone else from the team has a better justification?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 08/02/2013, at 17:45, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Em 08-02-2013 13:03, Xavier Noria escreveu:
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Em 08-02-2013 12:06, Xavier Noria escreveu:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seems unrelated to dependencies.rb, most likely a missing require
>>>>>> somewhere within Rails.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It can be the case that it does not show up in production because of 
>>>>>> eager
>>>>>> loading.
>>>>> Any ideas why helpers.rb is loaded when you write code like below?
>>>>> 
>>>>> module ActionView
>>>>>   module Helpers
>>>>>     module NumberHelper
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this normal MRI behavior or is this caused by dependencies.rb?
>>>> Ruby on Rails itself does not use dependencies.rb to load its code. It
>>>> is a regular Ruby library that uses requires and Kernel#autoload with
>>>> some added sugar. AS::Dependencies only covers application constant
>>>> autoloading.
>>>> 
>>>> The thing goes like this: When an application boots in any environment
>>>> action_view.rb is loaded. When that file is executed an autoload for
>>>> :Helpers is configured under ActionView. In a default setup,
>>>> helpers.rb is not yet loaded. That is, if you run
>>>> 
>>>>     rails runner 1
>>>> 
>>>> helpers.rb is not loaded (at least in 3-2-stable, not that we are
>>>> explaining any contract, only load order execution to follow what
>>>> happens in your exception).
>>>> 
>>>> But if you force the evaluation of the constant as in your example above:
>>>> 
>>>>     module ActionView
>>>>       module Helpers
>>>>         ...
>>>>       end
>>>>     end
>>>> 
>>>> that autoload is triggered because the interpreter checks whether
>>>> "Helpers" is a constant defined in the module object stored in
>>>> ActionView. Therefore, helpers.rb is interpreted and sets in turn an
>>>> autoload for NumberHelper below AV::Helpers.
>>>> 
>>>> So, module Helpers in that snippet *reopens* a module object defined
>>>> via the autoload, rather than creating the module object. The
>>>> execution follows and the same happens with the "NumberHelper"
>>>> constant down below. The interpreter checks whether it belongs to the
>>>> module object stored in AV::Helpers. Since it is unknown and there is
>>>> an autoload for it it gets triggered, and loads... well the very
>>>> number_helper.rb whose execution we were in the middle of (not sure
>>>> this sentence is valid English :).
>>>> 
>>>> I suspect there is a circularity here that is showing up that way.
>>>> 
>>>> Would need to dig deeper to fully explain how this ends up in an
>>>> exception, maybe I'll do it tonight, but in the meantime here's some
>>>> context in case it helps.
>>> 
>>> It makes total sense. What doesn't make sense is the source of helpers.rb 
>>> to me:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/master/actionpack/lib/action_view/helpers.rb
>>> 
>>> First it should explicitly require (or require_dependency) 
>>> 'active_support/autoload' and 'active_support/concern', right?
>>> 
>>> But then, why using autoload if you're just including all modules next?
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