Currently many of the persistence methods all have different behaviours when it comes to whether setters are called, and validations and or callbacks are run, Knowing what happens requires deeper knowledge of rails than just reading the method name
This can be confusing for newcomers and even people very familiar with rails will need to double check which does what. save(validate: false) => callbacks: yes, validations: no, only_save_mentioned_columns: N/A save => callbacks: yes, validations: yes, touch: yes, only_save_mentioned_columns: N/A save(touch: false) => callbacks: yes, validations: yes, touch: no, only_save_mentioned_columns: N/A save(validate: false, touch: false) => callbacks: yes, validations: no, touch: no, only_save_mentioned_columns: N/A update/update_attributes => callbacks: yes, validations: yes, setters: yes, touch: yes, only_save_mentioned_columns: no update_columns/update_column => callbacks: no, validations: no, setters: no, touch: no, only_save_mentioned_columns: yes update_attribute => callbacks: yes, validations: no, setters: yes, touch: yes, only_save_mentioned_columns: no increment!/decrement!/toggle! => callbacks: no, validations: no, setters: no, touch: no, only_save_mentioned_columns: yes increment!/decrement!(touch: true) => callbacks: no, validations: no, setters: no, touch: yes, only_save_mentioned_columns: yes touch => callbacks: some, validations: no, setters: no, touch: yes, only_save_mentioned_columns: yes update_all/Class update => callbacks: no, validations: no, setters: no, touch: no, only_save_mentioned_columns: yes Proposal A: Follow what the `save` pattern started, and provide explicit instructions to update, and a more complete list to save 1. Add `callbacks: false` option to save. 2. Add `validate:`,`touch:`,`callbacks:`,`only_save_mentioned_columns:` to update, with the option of providing the instructions in a separate hash for models where those are columns/attributes e.g. `update(column: whatever, callbacks: false)`, or `update(**params, callbacks: false)` or `update({ column: whatever }, callbacks: false)`, or `update(params, callbacks: false)` 3. deprecate the other update_* methods 4. always use attributes/setters. if one wants to not use the setters, don't use these pretty methods, and instead use []=/write_attribute and then save 5. only_save_mentioned_columns is a bad name, but I'm having difficulty thinking of a better one that's as clear 6. validate the keyword arguments passed to save/update, so people don't accidentally write 'skip_callbacks: true' or 'validates: false' or etc Proposal B: Rather than modifying update_*/save signatures, deprecate and replace with a method called `persist` and `persist!` that takes those options I'd be happy to undertake the work of doing this PR if this is something you'd be interested in merging -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.