OK thanks everyone! I actually got CentOS 4.4 running flawless on one of my servers and everything looked great. Then I followed the OpenVZ install instructions and it worked fine. I have 3 VPS's running on this machine. And then, suddenly remembering what a linux noob I am, I wondered "What now?". :)
I could see that I have 3 vps each with their own IPs etc but couldn't figure out how I was then going to install my apps on each one etc. I guess I really gotta get my head around linux before anything else. It sounds like I'll be trying XenExpress to see how it works and determine if I'll need to be buying Xen commercial to go forward (if I use Xen I need the multiprocessor and 16gb ram support). When you get right down to it I really just want Apache or Nginx running with as many mongrels behind it as reasonable. I did set up a successful development server on Windows with Apache 2.2 and 5 mongrel services that seems to run fine, but I understand that for large scale performance of Rails and MySQL (and the ability ot automate deployment with Capistrano) that I'd be better off to go linux. Not to mention that I'll need about $7000 in Microsoft licenses to go the Windows route!! Thanks again, I'll keep pushing on and report back as I figure things out. Appreciated! Raul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stadig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Deploying Rails" <rubyonrails-deployment@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:01 AM Subject: [Rails-deploy] Re: OpenVZ versus Xen or others > > I've had experience with both OpenVZ and Xen on with different hosting > companies. The OpenVZ server we had with vpslink.com just would not > install Oracle XE. It was a problem with swap memory. The VPS at > vsplink didn't have any, and even though it had plenty of memory > Oracle would just crap out during install. I'm not sure if this is > related to some limitation with OpenVZ, but most Xen hosts I've seen > give you some swap, too. I even tried enabling my own swap, but it > just wouldn't work. > > My problems may have had more to do with the suckiness of Oracle than > anything else. Their install script for XE just directs error > messages to /dev/null, so I spent many hours trying to figure out why > the Oracle install "completed successfully" but was broken when I > tried to use it. > > You've been warned. > > > Paul > > On Feb 8, 11:52 pm, Robby Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: >> >> > On Feb 8, 2007, at 7:30 PM, Robby Russell wrote: >> >> >> Raul wrote: >> >>> Hi again. All the great assistance so far has moved me along. I'm >> >>> still a Linux noob but I've settled on CentOS 4.4 and have it up and >> >>> running on a test server right now. I'll be testing two >> >>> scenarios: one >> >>> with Apache 2.2 and mod_proxy_balancer in front of a mongrel cluster, >> >>> and another with NGINX in front of a mongrel cluster. >> >> >>> Remeber I have 3 machines with dual, dual-core Xeons and 16gb of >> >>> ram per >> >>> server and I want to maximize the performance, 146gb of storage on >> >>> two >> >>> and a 73gb mirror with a 600gb raid 5 on the last one (I had >> >>> intended to >> >>> use the raid5 for the mySQL database). So I've looked into >> >>> virtualization a bit to see what the benefits might be and it sounds >> >>> great. Now I noticed that XenExpress only supports up to 4gb of >> >>> ram and >> >>> I understand there may be a mySQL 4gb per process limit as well. I >> >>> could buy commercial Xen but I found OpenVZ (open source branch of >> >>> Virtuozzo) and it sounds pretty good too. I understand that each >> >>> solution accomplishes virtualization in different ways though so any >> >>> guidance would be appreciated. >> >> We've been testing both of these solutions out. Xen is pretty >> >> rocking if >> >> you want to manage several different distros and such. Each virtual >> >> server has it's own kernel running with Xen... which will take more >> >> resources on the server than OpenVZ. There is also the overhead of >> >> managing that many more servers/kernels. >> >> >> OpenVZ shares it's kernel with each of the virtual machines and works >> >> more like a FreeBSD jail. One of the cool features that really caught >> >> our attention as we've been investigating tools for our new product is >> >> live migrations! >> >> >> "Delivery of the checkpointing and live migration functionality as >> >> part >> >> of OpenVZ brings a capability that no other open source operating >> >> system-level virtualization software offers. It allows system >> >> administrators to move virtual servers between physical servers >> >> without >> >> end-user disruption or the need for costly storage capacity." >> >> >>http://openvz.org/news/announcements/kernel-2.6.9-stable-20061114 >> >> > Ummm... Xen can do this too. >> >> "the more you know..." (tm) >> >> I'll look into that more. >> >> >> >> >> ..pretty cool, huh? >> >> > definitely cool, to be able to move a whole VM from one host to >> > another without any down time is kick ass ;) >> >> Yeah, I'm also curious if OpenVZ will get accepted into the Linux kernel >> as mentioned here: >> >> *http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/17/2251233 >> * and...http://rubyurl.com/2na >> >> Since they both approach things _slighty_ different, it's a good idea to >> consider the benefits of both before making a decision. >> >> I really _want_ to go the openvz route with a project we're working on, >> but xen keeps coming back to surprise me. >> >> Robby >> >> -- >> Robby Russellhttp://www.robbyonrails.com/http://www.planetargon.com/ > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Deploying Rails" group. 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