Did you notice the.. ;) ?

Anyway, we could talk to no end on what "enterprise caliber  
application development" really means (if it means anything), but I  
guess that time is better spend otherwise. :)

Best,
Thomas

Am 31.01.2007 um 14:24 schrieb Ryan Gahl:

> Sorry Thomas, your bashing is becoming a bit annoying now. There  
> are a lot of comparisons between C# and java out there. C# has  
> pros, java has pros. .NET in general (no matter which of the many  
> languages you chose to write against the platform) offers quite a  
> lot for productivity enhancement that java does not, tooling of  
> course being one of those. I will not try to enumerate all of this  
> here though, as others have done it many times over and far better  
> than I could...
>
> I'll just say that I'm always amazed when people say .NET is hard  
> to work with. It's got to be about the easiest thing in the world,  
> especially if you take into account now all the free tools you can  
> get (you literally do not need VS.NET full edition anymore with the  
> various Express packages out there, and can create the same level  
> application), not to mention community supported starter kits, etc...
>
> MS definitely takes inspiration from others for things, but they  
> also innovate quite a lot. It's not the perfect platform, but that  
> does not exist.
>
> It's for enterprise caliber application development on a large  
> scale with minimal effort. Not something anyone is ever going to  
> attempt with Ruby (at least anyone in their right minds). Yes, java  
> is a fine alternative if you're not an MS enterprise, but you'll  
> certainly spend more time implementing and maintaining the  
> solution. The tradeoff there is short term cost of ownership...  
> there are a lot of factors, Thomas, that you are either not aware  
> of or are downplaying quite a bit.
>
> So anyway, bash away if you must, but it really sounds a bit dumb  
> after a point.
>
> On 1/31/07, Thomas Fuchs < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Am 31.01.2007 um 00:22 schrieb RobG:
>
> > On Jan 31, 4:27 am, Thomas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I see that C# doesn't get enough bashing, so here it goes:
> >
> > Are you bashing C# as a language, or just how MS have used it in  
> their
> > web development tools?
>
> They could have used Java in the first place, no need to "invent" a
> new language.
> I guess that's just the NIH thing big companies have. :)
>
> >> So, now for a Beer 2.0 Liter Ultimate Advanced Edition. ;)
> >
> > Someone with your nom de plume should know how to spell litre.  :-)
>
> MS is an American company, not British ;)
>
> > --
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
> --
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