You're missing the point. We don't WANT to use flash. Why bother with script.aculo.us at all otherwise? Flash can do animations and ajax- like functions as well.
When I set out to make a js audio engine, I wanted to do so with no plugins whatsoever. Which is fine in IE and Opera. However gecko dropped the support for playing wav natively in the browser... god only knows why... but they did. So for them, we are forced to use a plugin. So, unless we can tell the flash plugin to play an audio file (that is, not download a swf that plays audio) I don't see it as a good idea. It's kinda like... giving in. And then it makes people wonder, 'well, why bother using script.aculo.us if we're gonna rely on flash anyhow?' On Mar 6, 1:46 pm, "Mark Holton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > here's a link:http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/ > > On 3/6/07, Mark Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Flash Player has a footprint on something like 98% of machines... pretty > > safe to fallback with Flash. > > > (this is really cool by the way, thanks again, Thomas-) > > > On 3/6/07, Thomas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Am 06.03.2007 um 05:47 schrieb jules: > > > > > I don't know how to made modifications > > > > with Trac/SVN... can you email me some quicks instructions? (Mac/ > > > > BBEdit preferred or PC/UlraEdit) > > > > Google is your friend:http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/ > > > svn.basic.html :) > > > > > Later we should fall back on Window Media, Real, WinAmp, VLC, etc. I > > > > need to find out which loads and plays audio the quickest and create a > > > > > list of plugins ordered by preference. > > > > I don't think this is a good solution. This will just blow up the > > > code just to support some edge cases we can't test easily. The embed > > > tag already uses a audio/mpeg mimetype, so other plugins should be > > > able to pick that up. You'll also get into all sorts of version hell. > > > I feel spending time on improving the performance and stability of > > > what's already there is better invested. :) > > > > First thing, we need proper unit tests (we only have the functional > > > test right now). > > > > I *can* imagine the flash fallback, so we reach a huge majority of > > > users (namely, the last few % that are composed of FF/Win without > > > QuickTime). > > > > Best, > > > Thomas > > > > > -Jules > > > > > On Mar 5, 6:59 pm, Thomas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> There probably needs a check added for this, or maybe just the "Win" > > > >> check removed-- care to investigate? :) > > > > >> Best, > > > >> Thomas > > > > >> Am 06.03.2007 um 00:24 schrieb Christophe Porteneuve: > > > > >>> jules a écrit : > > > >>>> The absolute very last thing I wanted out of this is for the > > > >>>> user to > > > >>>> be prompted to install a plugin or run an active-X. > > > > >>> AAMOF, on FF2 with no audio/mpeg plugin (I'm on Debian), I do get > > > >>> prompted (in a sliding topbar) to install a plugin :-( > > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Christophe Porteneuve a.k.a. TDD > > > >>> "[They] did not know it was impossible, so they did it." --Mark > > > >>> Twain > > > >>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > > Thomas Fuchs > > > wollzelle > > > >http://www.wollzelle.com > > > > questentier on AIM > > > madrobby on irc.freenode.net > > > >http://www.fluxiom.com:: online digital asset management > > >http://script.aculo.us:: Web 2.0 JavaScript > > >http://mir.aculo.us:: Where no web developer has gone before --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
