And a bit of evidence
I added insertions to the onEmptyHover and onHover internal functions to
identify when they were being called.
I assigned an 'index' attribute to every item in the dom...
Then found all the insertBefore's and got it to spit out the index... this
is the output

onEmptyHover Insertion @ 8
onHover
onHover
onHover
onHover
onHover
onHover Insertion @ 7
onEmptyHover
onEmptyHover Insertion @ 8
onHover
onHover Insertion @ 7
onEmptyHover
onEmptyHover Insertion @ 7

Looks like this is on the right track, agree?

Gareth

On 6/13/07, Gareth Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell,
> In Create, it does some stuff that when dropOnEmpty is true, it uses
> options_for_tree to create a droppable.
> This defines the onHover handler to be onEmptyHover.
> The default onHover handler is just onHover.
>
> Oohh here's something interesting.
>
> I added an insertion for debug to both onHover and onEmptyHover and *both*
> are firing when it jitters.
>
> If one was calculating the location to be above, and the other below,
> under a certain condition- wouldn't this cause the effect we saw, as they'd
> fire sequentially, one would move it up, the other would move it down...
>
> Gareth
>
> On 6/13/07, junkmate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > yup I tracked it down to there too. I cant find the "onHover function
> > when dropOnEmpty" is false though, so im unable to compare.
> >
> > ps. I find it interesting that this demo works completely fine:
> > http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/page/print/SortableFloatsDemo
> >
> >
> > On Jun 13, 12:05 am, "Gareth Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Yeah looks like the same bug to me, though much more accentuated on
> > yours.
> > > In dragdrop.js these lines appear to be responsible
> > >
> > > You can see i've added some debug insertions.
> > > What appears to happen is that as i move the item up, one pixel at at
> > time,
> > > it sometimes goes into the top branch, and occasionally into the
> > middle
> > > branch.
> > >
> > > This code reads *completely* differently to the onHover function used
> > when
> > > dropOnEmpty:false.
> > >
> > >       if(children) {
> > >         var offset = Element.offsetSize(dropon, droponOptions.overlap)
> > * (
> > > 1.0 - overlap);
> > >
> > >         for (index = 0; index < children.length; index += 1) {
> > >           if (offset - Element.offsetSize (children[index],
> > > droponOptions.overlap ) >= 0) {
> > >             offset -= Element.offsetSize (children[index],
> > > droponOptions.overlap);
> > >      new Insertion.Top('debug','topbranch<br/>')
> > >           } else if (offset - ( Element.offsetSize (children[index],
> > > droponOptions.overlap) / 2) >= 0) {
> > >             child = index + 1 < children.length ? children[index + 1]
> > :
> > > null;
> > >      new Insertion.Top('debug','midbranch<br/>')
> > >             break;
> > >           } else {
> > >             child = children[index];
> > >      new Insertion.Top('debug','bottombranch<br/>')
> > >             break;
> > >           }
> > >         }
> > >       }
> > >
> > > I confess i'm not even sure what it's doing... at this point.
> > >
> > > Gareth
> > >
> > > On 6/13/07, junkmate < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Heres my test page:http://www.oldsushi.com/testing.php
> > >
> > > > Going there make your browser small enough so the images are on two
> > > > lines, and you will see the problem when dragging around the second
> > > > line and below.
> > >
> > > > On Jun 12, 11:10 pm, "Gareth Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > My problem, while related to dropOnEmpty as well seems to only
> > occur
> > > > when my
> > > > > sortables are nested, which is why I can't replicate it on my test
> > page.
> > > > > I've been meaning to update my test page to prove it so I have a
> > clean
> > > > page
> > > > > to debug from within, that I can post up (it's really hard to post
> > up an
> > > > > internal [read:burried] page of a web application.
> > > > > I think there might be issues in the dropOnEmpty code.
> > >
> > > > > Perhaps we should team up to debug the solution at some point,
> > > > > What Instant Messaging tools do you use?
> > >
> > > > > On 6/13/07, junkmate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > any update on this? I am having exactly the same problem.
> > >
> > > > > > I have two Div containers, one on top of the other, where you
> > can drag
> > > > > > from on to the other.
> > > > > > Each div is large enough for 5 images to fit on one line.
> > >
> > > > > > With less than 5 images, dragging and dropping is a pleasure,
> > with
> > > > > > everything looking great. However above 5 images in one
> > container
> > > > > > forces the images on to two rows, and then dragging problems
> > start.
> > > > > > The top row is still perfectly fine, but the second row and
> > below it
> > > > > > is very difficult to drag your image where you want it to land,
> > due to
> > > > > > constantly alternating drop positions every pixel you move...
> > >
> > > > > > This problem only occurs with dropOnEmpty set to true, yet I
> > must have
> > > > > > the ability to empty these lists.
> > >
> > > > > > help :D
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
>

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