On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:37:03 PM UTC-4, Phil wrote:
 

> Before blaming 'incorrect code' or bad programmers, look back again at my 
> example.  It's quite trivial and reproducible.  Saves order line items, in 
> what I would consider a completely sane and logical way, call back line 
> items to compute tax, add the last line item (the tax), and then throws the 
> @order to payment processing, mailers, receipt page... where totals are 
> wrong and tax is missing.  I understand that doing things differently avoid 
> the problem and I have used them to fix this issue on my end, but I still 
> am quite skeptical as to how a programmer is supposed to know about these 
> pitfalls.
>

It sounds like you are thinking in terms of the database, while 
ActiveRecord is an ORM.  You need to think of it in terms of objects which 
happen to be persisted in a database.   When you create a line item record 
in the database, your @order object does not know about it, so you have to 
tell it to reload.  The only other ORM I've used is Apple's CoreData, and 
the same thing applies.  If you modify the database without using the 
object in question, the object will not be updated until you reload it.  

Jim

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