Be kind to your elders. I built my first site for money for an ad agency in 
1997. That was 21 years ago. It was entirely static HTML except for a CGI 
contact form and some sort of "interactive quiz" thing that was meant to siphon 
in the clients. Tons of inline JS rollovers, because we were very modern. At 
home I had a 56K modem, to be sure, but at work we had a T1. 

Walter

> On Nov 14, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Joe Guerra <jgue...@jginfosys.com> wrote:
> 
> what kind of websites were you developing 16 years ago?  where did you 
> connect using a dial up modem? 56k?
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 8:10:28 PM UTC-5, Stefan Buhrmester wrote:
> I've been a professional web developer for 16 years now. "Professional" as in 
> "receiving money for pushing buttons on the computer with a varying degree of 
> purposefulness".
> 
> After 3 years of working exclusively with nodejs on the server- as well the 
> client side, I landed a Rails job again. And I have to say one thing: 
> Nothing, and I mean NOTHING could separate me from the Ruby and Rails 
> community EVER again. The Ruby and Rails communities are the most welcoming, 
> loving people you will ever find. The only likewise welcoming community in 
> the javascript world (in my opinion) is the Vue / Nuxt.js community. And with 
> webpacker, you can now have literally the best of both worlds.
> 
> Also, using ActiveRecord on the backend is still second-to-none in terms of 
> ease of use. Good luck with ACID guarantees in all these NoSQL databases and 
> transactions entangled in a labyrinth of asynchronous javascript.
> 
> What I want to say is: I love Rails.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 3:55 PM Jack Waugh <jv2a9...@snkmail.com> wrote:
> It's late 2018. Is Ruby still what managers are turning to for significant 
> numbers of new web projects?
> 
> Are there sets of requirements that are so simple, that almost everyone with 
> any experience would choose some other stack not involving the Ruby language? 
> E. g. a web site requiring a CMS and a 'blog and little to nothing in the way 
> of custom tables?
> 
> I'm not experienced with many kinds of projects on the Web, and so I have 
> this maybe naive thought that with nodejs, at least people can use the same 
> syntax for code that runs on the server and code that runs in the browser. 
> Doesn't having that single syntax reduce the intellectual burden somewhat? If 
> Ruby is still getting a lot of traction for new projects, what are said to be 
> the benefits that outweigh the drawback of using two languages and so having 
> to keep mentally changing gears?
> 
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