Sorry, the previous code was wrong, anyway the problem is the same:

 def edit
     @post = Post.find(params[:id],:include => [:ingredients,
 {:ingredients => :eng_ingredient}])
     ingredients = @post.ingredients
     ing = ingredients[0]               # <-- ing is not nil
     ei = ing.eng_ingredient            # <-- ei is not nil but it's
 attrs are nil
 ..
 end
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