Phlip wrote:
[...]
> Mock almost nothing - the clock, the wire out of your
> workstation, and system errors.

I was at a loss to understand this until I read the following sentence.

> 
> Everything else should be so clean and decoupled that you can use it as 
> stubs
> without mocking it.

I suppose I was speaking inexactly.  I think of a stub as a special case 
of mock, and was writing from that point of view.  My original statement 
should have read:

Stub everything that isn't what you're directly testing.  If for some 
reason you can't stub it, *then* mock it.

Or more simply:

If it isn't what you're testing, fake it!

Is that a more acceptable method?

> Mocks just tell your tests what they think they want 
> to
> hear,

True, although sometimes that can be useful to isolate problems.

> and the mocks interfere with refactoring and decoupling.

How?  By making a test too dependent on another object's interface?  But 
don't stubs do that too?

Best,
--
Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
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