Thanks for all of the posts,

 AplhaBlue - sorry fell asleep

 MaurĂ­cio -agreed, wasnt the best tone...

 Jason Stewart (thanks)
 debian - and Ruby is a little odd so first was to get the basic bundle 
of Ruy working, got it correct now to v1.8


then did the pharrington routine and

same process

rake gems:install produced nothing but error, to start with I had

nokogiri missing cant load file...

manual install of the gem and re try

then had FightTheMelons constant not found

then imagemagick /rmagick was missing - still couldnt get this working

then RedCloth (as yours did)

but couldnt run the db:create at all,

have rails v.2.2.2 now in place tried it as above and it still failed to 
run

Danny, tried your idea and it worked

Thanks all, I eventually went back to Fedora and it worked with the 
instructions combined from above. :-)
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