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On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Johan De Klerk <[email protected]>wrote: > Marnen, again, thanks for the input. > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Johan De Klerk wrote: >> > "Find a developer >> > you like, and let him choose (or at least have input into) the >> > technology." >> > >> > I disagree. >> > >> > Never let the developer dictate the technology. Choose whats right for >> > the >> > company in the short/medium and long term. >> >> Right -- with significant input from the developer. Business people >> shouldn't be making tech decisions without technical input. The reverse >> is also true. >> > > How can business people make any reasonable tech decisions if they dont > have technical knowledge? The challenge facing most small/medium sized > companies with no in house IT staff, (outsourcing all work to development > houses with excellent sales teams) > is the problem of choosing who to trust. Very few contractors (at least in > this country) deliver products viable in the long term. > >> >> > What if the company/client >> > gets >> > duped into using some guy that only develops in Erlang? >> >> If he's the best guy for the job, and if Erlang is a good tool for the >> job, what's wrong with that? Remember back in 2004 when these guys in >> Chicago began developing Web apps in a language no one had heard of >> outside Japan? ;) >> >> Just saying, some developers are so set in their ways they don't consider > the best tool for the job. They use the tool they know best. > > >> (FWIW, Facebook has some features written in Erlang.) >> >> > Yeah, ok, I dont >> > know many developers who do, but i've come across similar situations >> > before. >> >> What do you consider a similar situation? >> >> > Ever had the misfortune of inheriting a antique Perl or PHP or ASP system? > Nuf said. > > >> > >> > Why do so many big coporates choose Microsoft technology? Answer: The >> > availability of relatively cheap, fairly good, developers at a drop of a >> > hat. >> >> As I understand, MS developers are not cheap. Many of them are not that >> good either. :) I think in many cases, the choice of MS technologies is >> probably due to business people dictating technologies. (There's also >> the fact that lots of people don't know about anything non-MS.) >> >> > MS developers are a dime a dozen. (at least here they are). Hell, I can get > a Senior Dev C# job tmrw, even though I have not used MS technology in about > 4 years. In fact, I got a call from an agent just the other day... maybe > it's just my location. > > >> Best, >> -- >> Marnen Laibow-Koser >> http://www.marnen.org >> [email protected] >> > >> > Just my 2 cents.... >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> technology. >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]<rubyonrails-talk%[email protected]> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> >> -- >> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<rubyonrails-talk%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rubyonrails-talk%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > -- David Angga Prasetya Ruby on Rails developer @ http://kiranatama.com - a Ruby on Rails outsourcing company -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
