Sorry I deleted my original post as I thought I had figured it out well talking out loud.
Well Model defining and the db schema kinda go hand in hand. I guess I'm really just defining the model, but doing it in mysql workbench =) . I'm bad with pen & paper =P I'd have to say though at this point I'm still having trouble deciding if I would need my own join tables. For most of my tables I'm thinking not. The more I think about I can't think of any situation I would need a join table anymore but then I wonder if it's just ignorance lol. Support tickets for example. A Ticket will have many updates. I'll always find the ticket_updates via :through & :has_many. And if I have a ticket_update I can always find the ticket because ticket_id would be stored in the ticket_update. This is just a single example of which I may or may not have done "correctly." But I really just can't think of an instance that this system wouldn't work. Every db I've made all relationships have worked out like that. I mean I could brake that up into a join table but it seems like it would take more effort to query the join table and get the results then to just do it like mentioned above. On Mar 29, 1:07 am, Colin Law <[email protected]> wrote: > On 29 March 2010 08:33, brianp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Just working out my db schema before I start development and I got > > stuck on my join tables. With the way most associations work in rails > > already. Are join tables really needed? Rails will handle most of that > > auto magically so won't building and maintaining these tables in the > > application by hand be redundant? > > Don't start by working out the db schema, start by defining the models > that map the objects you are modeling in the real world, then define > the associations between them. Whether you need hand crafted join > tables or not will then become clear. > > Colin > > > > > Just wondering your opinions. > > > Cheers, > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.

