Jeremy Kemper wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> This should help clear things up: http://bit.ly/diXfGx >> >> Oh, that was classy from a member of the core team. Not. >> >> That attitude could get me (and probably a lot of others) to quit using >> Rails. And I'm a Rabid Rails Fanboy [TM]. > > An attitude of entitlement just rubs everyone wrong and doesn't move > the project forward.
What attitude of entitlement? I don't think I have one here. What I *do* have, however, is an expectation that once a release estimate is made, either a release or a revised estimate should follow, not 6 weeks of silence. Is that unreasonable? > Your annoyance is understandable but, alone, it > is not constructive. Neither is your silence. And your insults certainly aren't. Your latest message is, for which I thank you. > > Ultimately, your message is spot-on. It has been a while and many are > on pins and needles waiting for a non-beta gem to munch on. Real soon > now. I'm not so much impatient waiting for a release. Rather, I just think better communication would be helpful. I'm already sold on Rails -- I really, really love it. However, if I were sitting on the fence right now -- say, switching from PHP or Java, and evaluating Ruby, Rails, Sinatra, Python, Django, $RAILS_COMPETITOR... -- I'd think twice about adopting a technology that has this sort of support from its core team. In other words, I don't fundamentally care that much whether Rails 3 is released in August or December. I just think that whatever is decided, it should be better communicated. > > We, too, are pretty annoyed that the release candidate has dragged on, > but we want a candidate we'd feel comfortable deploying to production > with our own apps. I appreciate that. Again, the time is not the problem. The lack of communication is. > Thankfully, we've had tons of people testing the > betas and bringing the polish up to release quality. That means a > short RC cycle. > > Check out http://github.com/rails/rails/compare/v3.0.0.beta4...master > for a sense of the work that has been going into this. This release is > going to rock. Who cares how much it rocks if it never sees the light of day? > > jeremy Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org [email protected] -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
