Peter makes very good points. Thanks for the wrap-up. (And I was just being tongue-in-cheek about the my reasons for getting a Mac.)
Yiannis has a valid point too. There should be a nice X-Platform IDE that ships with Ruby core or is at least considered the de-facto standard. Some people just take to a language if it comes with a nice environment to work in. Eclipse for Java, VS for C++. Just a personal choice, but one that should be available, and might attract more developers. I think there is a golden opportunity here. Almost all the pieces exist to create a community developed IDE. Perhaps limited in scope at first, but extensible. There is the TKText widget for the editor. guirb [1] for the irb shell, and we can link to ruby-debug-ide for debugging support. I think we have to figure out syntax colorizing, and code-completion. Does anyone know of a tabbed window widget for Tk? Also, is it possible to just eval Tk directly as a string? Then additonal widgets could be added at runtime. [1] http://github.com/martindemello/guirb.git Cheers, Ed Ed Howland http://greenprogrammer.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/ed_howland On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Peter De Berdt <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, here we have it, everyone has their favorite and if it makes you more > productive and your development time more enjoyable, good on you. > Personally, I think diversity is a good thing. I for one don't really like > all-in-one IDEs, other people do. Linux people generally already have a > favorite editor before they come to RoR and are happy they can just keep on > using it. TextMate on the Mac is a really nice editor, but there are other > valid choices as well. On Windows, you also have plenty of choices. If you > want Textmate on Windows, buy e-TextEditor: it works the same, it almost > looks the same and it uses the same bundles as TextMate does. If you'd > rather go with something else you're already used to, by all means, go for > it. No one is touting any editor as being "the editor for HTML & CSS", "the > editor for Javascript development" or "the editor for PHP development", so > why would there need to be one for RoR development? > Am I willing to spend money on a Mac (which is far less expensive than $3500 > btw)? Yes. Is it because of TextMate... hardly. It's because working on a > Mac makes me a happy programmer and provides me with an OS and application > suite that feels solid and intuitive to me, i.e. a Mac makes me more > productive. Being productive leads to nice applications which hopefully lead > to a solid revenue for the company I work for. > Do I get the same feeling on another platform? No. Is this a personal > preference? Yes. Should it matter to someone else what I'm spending my hard > earned money on? I don't think so. > And besides, even if I would run Linux, you can be sure I would be buying a > powerful, i.e. > $1500, computer anyway. Why? Because I don't like waiting, > whether that is due to lack of processing power or memory. > Do Macs come with a premium in terms of specs compared to what you can get > with a self-assembled PC? Most probably. Does it feel as a premium when > looking at a Mac as a whole, i.e. hardware, OS and applications? Not at all. > On 27 Aug 2010, at 01:21, Yiannis wrote: > > I feel that the whole community is supporting mac and textmate but I > found that this is a problem. We should use cross platform tools if we > want more people to try rails. All the screencasts I have seen are > using with textmate, for example how easy it is to setup an autotest > without growl, rspec without output from textmate etc.? How do you do > that with other editors, like komodoedit? > > So you got yourself a $3500 text editor? Â Congrats. > > Yes! And I'll never go back. :) > > I say the same thing about Emacs. > > Best regards > > Peter De Berdt > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
