Cameron Vessey wrote:
> You don't get it.
> 

Sorry dude, but you are the one who doesn't get it.  Your posts 
'smelled' a great deal like a total newbie post, and as such elicited a 
response directed at a total newbie.

It may not have occurred to you that your spelling of user_loggin didn't 
strike Marnen (or I) as a "Say, he's a right smart bloke, and I bet he's 
not spelling the word correctly on purpose." type of posting...  Right 
or wrong, there are tons and tons of ESL posts on this board that 
probably colored the response to your post. My initial thought was "Oh 
crap, another person trying to code php in Rails..."

Your subsequent comment that "and it messes with URL routing or some 
thing ..." in your second post also sent up red flags for me that 'Why 
this bloke seems to have no clue what he's talking about."

>From your fourth post:  "Why would I use restful if I have no clue how 
to use restful?"

Umm... perhaps because long-time readers and posters on the forum assume 
that you come to this forum to learn from people who have already 
traveled the road you seem to be on...  perhaps because restful routes 
is a big thing in Rails, which happens to prefer convention over 
configuration, and you seem to be thinking configuration, so perhaps a 
redirect was in order...

A great place for information is api.rubyonrails.org; another great 
place is your own machine in the console window, and your development 
log.  Look in the dev log to see what the parameters are that your app 
is receiving. Read the api (particularly the routing part) to better 
understand that piece.  When you used scaffold, did you just scaffold 
the full deal (something like: script/generate scaffold person 
last_name:string first_name:string ).  That'll generate the controller, 
model, views, routing - rake that migration then play with that basic 
app - read through the generated code to learn how it all fits - it is 
amazingly educational about the Rails conventions.  Generally, if it is 
hard to do, you're doing it wrong. Simple as that.

I don't always agree with Marnen's opinions, and he does tend to state 
things a bit strongly for my taste, but I do always read his posts. 
Why? Because he knows more than I, and a hell of a lot more than you.

But as your later posts have indicated, you are not interested in 
learning from anyone more knowledgeable than you in Ruby and Rails, you 
just want an answer to your 'user_loggin' question so you can write the 
code your way, however against the conventions of Ruby and/or Rails it 
might be.
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