On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser <[email protected]>wrote:
> daze wrote in post #970132: > > On Dec 22, 9:45am, Marnen Laibow-Koser <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, that whole way of testing is wrongheaded and always was. You > >> shouldn't be testing for implementation details like instance methods; > >> rather, you should be testing for behavior. (Although I sometimes test > >> for acts_as_list by making sure the appropriate module was included into > >> the class.) > >> > >> Usually, if you're trying to poke into internals, something is wrong > >> with your tests. The object being tested should generally be considered > >> a black box. (BTW, consider RSpec instead of Shoulda. I believe even > >> Shoulda's own developers have switched.) > > > > Okay - so what exactly should I do regarding testing the acts_as_list > > gem? > > As I said above, test behavior, or test that the one module (I think > it's Acts::somethingorother) got included in the appropriate class. > > > > > On Dec 22, 9:53am, David Kahn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From what I understand, Thoughtbot, the developers of Shoulda are using > >> Rspec however are continuing to use and support the Shoulda helpers... > as > >> they make life easier than not using them. > > > > I will get rspec I guess. You can use rspec and shoulda together, > > right? > > I'm not sure, but I don't understand why you'd want to. Shoulda is > basically an RSpec knockoff. > ...yes you can use Rspec with shoulda, in fact that is the intended use at this point as the Thoughtbot team say they are using Rspec. I think the matchers add value to rspec and to date no one has shown me how to do some of the same things that the shoulda matchers do in pure rspec w/o shoulda. > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koser > http://www.marnen.org > [email protected] > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rubyonrails-talk%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
