On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Khalid Shaikh <[email protected]>wrote:
> Personally I am not that happy with Kylin. I was simply evaluating it > as to ensure an understanding of the broad base of operating systems > on the planet. The Simplified Chinese OS did have its entertainment > value. > You sound like a cyber-anthropoligist.... very noble! > > Kylin 2.1 seems to be build of FreeBSD 5.3. I also recently tried > FreeBSD 8.2RC. All OSes were run on Snow Leopard through Oracle > VirtualBox. > > The package manager is weak, it builds straight from C/C++ on FreeBSD > 8.2RC. On Kylin I haven't even figured out how to build packages > yet. I am certain its using a similar method. > > Ubuntu, CentOS and RHEL is what I am used to deploying production > rails apps on. Installation of packages are a breeze, support is > good. > > I think its good to evaluate Kylin in terms of if you want to build an > 'off the wall' secure web product whom people do not have experience > 'hacking'. It has its value. Also since all packages are built from > source, you technically know what is going into the OS as well. > > Like when I have a moment of inspiration and want to be like Waterhouse in Cryptonomicon.... but that guy would go circles around me > The main positive I noticed in FreeBSD/Kylin is that there is an > extremely low process count (barely 20 processes on install). One > negative I noticed is that during idle time of a command line based > OS, that up to 5% of the CPU can be used for interrupt driven > processes. I cannot determine what all that CPU power is doing. > > Ubuntu has a clear 100% idle CPU. > > One final point, surfing Chinese web sites related to Kylin, there was > a request from the Chinese government to support national software > products. That also had an interesting ting to the entire affair. > Funny.... a 'request' from a communist government (or the mafia for that matter).... hmmmmm > > Anyway, we all use Nginx, which is built in Russia. It has its > entertainment value to see whom else is interested in Kylin as a > production web OS. > Maybe Kim Jun Il... although he would probably not go for the open port 6000 :) > > I am actively looking for Kylin 3.0 as well as another individual I > met online. > > --- > > One final point. The contributors of Kylin are going to have a > horrible time re-integrating changes that are in the main FreeBSD > trunk back into the Kylin branch (from FreeBSD 5.3). Secure generally > means slow to adopt changes, slow to add features etc. > > Even when completing a port scan on the fresh Kylin 2.1 I noticed port > 6000 open and an SSHD server already setup. These things are not > secure. Ubuntu installs by default with an SSHD server. However I did > notice that inetd was not installed by default and it # of processes > was a bit more bare then Ubuntu. > > Overall it was a fun experiment ! If you are building a site with > over 10 million users a day, let me know. I'd be excited to do it > with Ubuntu, RHEL, CentOS, Kylin, FreeBSD, Windows Server 2008, or > whatever it is. Users are extremely stimulating. :) > No kidding... 10 million users, any platform, framework, os, just as long as I have TDD in place and enough servers I think I am very happy. Well your research is fascinating... I may just have to play with Kylin but I think you sound a lot more disciplined. > > On Jan 18, 4:31 pm, David Kahn <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Khalid Shaikh < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Anyone have experience with Ruby on Rails and Kylin 2.1. > > > > No..but curious, are you using Kylin for security reasons or other? Most > of > > what I see written on Kylin is about security --- are there other > benefits? > > Does it perform as well as other OS's? > > > > > I'm in process of setting up RVM and Rails 3.0.3 along with MongoDB on > > > Kylin 2.1 for the ultimate in a scalable high performance Ruby on > > > Rails environment to build a world class multi-server web application. > > > > > Best, > > > Khalid > > >http://bit.ly/fvfGU4 > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<rubyonrails-talk%[email protected]><rubyonrails-talk%2Bunsubscrib > [email protected]> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rubyonrails-talk%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. 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