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Kind Regards, Chad Eubanks The Code Boutique Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2011, at 6:48 AM, egervari <[email protected]> wrote: > Rails seems like it's a great platform... just the documentation isn't > as in-depth as I would like beyond the simplest cases.... and "google" > is not necessary the best way to learn things because lots of forums > and blogs show you how to do things using earlier versions. It's not > always easy to separate what's relevant from what isn't relevant. All > of this can make a person less productive rather than more productive. > > So... are there any books that really help reduce the learning curve > and gotchas with developing COMPLEX applications with Rails 3? > > Some criteria: > > 1. I am not looking for a "how to" book. I am already 530 tests in and > understand quite a bit about rails already in the 2 weeks that I've > been using. I'm a programmer of 19 years and have been building web > apps for a long time. > > 2. I am not looking for a book that spends 20%-50% of its pages > explaining how to program in OO... or what an MVC architecture is... > or what an ORM is. I can actually write these libraries/frameworks if > I really had the time, so understanding is not the problem ;) > > 3. I am really more interested in a book or set of books/resources > that cover all the gotchas that you WILL come across when building > COMPLEX applications - something that is up-to-date. > > 4. The real problem with examples and samples online is that they are > just too simple. I always find myself I am really interested in books > that don't cover the "simple" examples, but also the "exceptions" to > the examples/scenarios that are likely most complex and highly > customized you are likely to see in a large application. > > 5. I am really interested in books that don't cover "how to setup > devise", but rather, that cover the most useful customizations you'd > ever want to do in Devise (just as an example... we can replace > "Devise" with 'gem XYZ' here) > > Do these resources exist? Or is grueling through the learning curve > pretty much the best way to go about it? > > The only reason I ask this is because I've come to the conclusion that > IF you have 2-ish months to build a large application, and IF you are > REALLY good at another platform... I am not convinced that Rails will > help in the short term giving many of its documentation problems, out- > of-date examples and general "gotchas" and "problems" that seem to > occur a lot more frequently than say in Java/Spring. > > I do fully admit that once you learn all the gotchas in Rails and the > various plugins, and you know how to do "one of every complex thing" > possible, you will be MUCH faster than in Java/Spring regardless of > how good you are in Java. But that probably means you need to get 1-2 > months of time under your belt using Ruby and Rails minimum. > > Anyway, I've probably rambled enough. If you have any good books/ > resources to help speed up my learning curve and take out a lot of > guesswork and "solving weird problems in dark" type of issues, that > would be awesome. > > If you'd like to have discussion about other things, I'm always fair > game with that. LOL. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
