On 2014-08-20 15:50, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
On 8/20/2014 6:40 PM, Dave Warren wrote:
On 2014-08-20 14:54, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
I follow Chris Santere's definition: Spam is about Consent not Content.

I follow a capitalist view that doing business with a company is implied consent (I usually follow a rule similar to some legal precedence where you have to have done RECENT business with them, say 1-2 years at max).

So with that simple set of rules set, here's my interpretation:

#1, not spam. Clear implied consent. Someone hired them and gave them the email address. #2, not spam ASSUMING it's a real paystub. Again, Someone hired them and gave them the email address. If it's a fake paystub, it's just a phish which is a type of spam.

If we're talking strict consent, none of these have the consent of the owner of the mailbox -- The recipient doesn't do business with these senders, it's misdirected rather than malicious.
Do they have the consent of the owner of the domain?

How is this a misdirected email?


Imagine you start receiving paystubs to your email account this Friday, and receive another every two weeks. They're addressed to "Kennith McGrail" and mention they're related to your work for a company name of "Pigs, Cows, Cows and Cows, Inc".

Now that's not your name, or a company you work for, but it's close enough that the legitimate recipient is possibly [email protected] or another similar typo. You've previously received stuff from other humans looking to contact him too, after he gave out your address instead of his own.

Attempts to notify the company sending the paystubs, Pigs, Cows, Cows and Cows and the real recipient have failed (or you simply don't want to bother taking the time -- It's not your job to do so, but in this case, the user has made the attempt)

To you, you haven't given consent, so it's spam (under a strict "Consent is all that matters!" you haven't given consent -- I'd consider it a candidate for blocking by sender locally)

But to the other Kennith McGrail (as well as every other staff member using that payroll company), this mail is definitely wanted, and so I'm not sure if it's a good idea for the entirety of the SpamAssassin project's userbase to learn to block it or not, which is the bar I use for my ruleqa corpus.

If the sender had a way to make it stop, I wouldn't be calling it spam or suggesting it's anything but the result of an honest typo. But that isn't the case here; here it has reached the point of being abusive. But abusive does not necessarily mean it's spam.

(And again, I'm not really worried about this specific case, it's one sender with a consistent sending address, so it's trivial to block -- But I'm looking for guidance for this type of situation when sorting in general. For cases #3 and #4, based on your feedback they're already in my spam corpus queued for tonight's run)

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Dave Warren
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