On 29/08/2010 16:42, Wolfgang Laun wrote:
I *would* have added something on dynamic salience when I went over the Expert manual, in 2008 (?) - if I'd only known it. Blogging is fine - but it just isn't Documentation, with a capital 'D'.

This is also a nice case in point why I'm reluctant to invest work in maintaining Drools documentation: From where the heck would I get to know what's missing or obsolete or wrong? In some areas, I have gathered sufficient experience, but there are vast areas where I'm anything between spottily witted to downright ignorant. Also, there's some furious hacking going on all the time (I presume), and how would one rein that it to get to know what's happening?
Things do go into release notes, even if minimal:
https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/drools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trunk/target/docs/drools-introduction/html_single/index.html


     2.3.2. Core Engine Enhancements

* Dynamic salience for rules conflict resolution

What's needed is  for someone to update docs more based on release notes.

Mark


Anyway, right now I'm collecting a loose set of How-tos, as a by-product of current work, and for areas where I deem it useful. See http://members.inode.at/w.laun/ and scroll down to "Rule Based Programming" / "Drools" / "Selected Topics".

-W

On 27 August 2010 02:21, Mark Proctor <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 27/08/2010 00:05, Michael Neale wrote:
    Hahaha - yes - that is what I was thinking.

    Dyanmic salience was added some time back - but its one of those
    "did it and forgot about it" things.
    Also - historically salience has been "abused" more than "used" -
    so perhaps there is less excitement to talk about what you can do
    with it.

    But the case wolfgang mentioned is a good one - if you know you
    need it you can probably safely use it.
    http://blog.athico.com/2007/05/dynamic-salience-expressions.html


    On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Edson Tirelli <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Wolfgang,

            Not sure I understand what you mean, but Drools supports
        dynamic salience:

        rule "fire in rank order 1,2,..."
              salience( -$rank )
        when
              Element( $rank : rank,... )
              ...
        then
             ...
        end

            Edson


        2010/8/26 Wolfgang Laun <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>

            Just FYI, but who knows ;-)

            Our proprietary vintage RBS has a feature is (admittedly)
            rarely used
            but could come in handy, every now and then.

            Given this class

              class Element {
                  int rank; // rank > 0
              }

            and to fire a rule in ascending rank order, you can write
            (using
            modified Drools syntax)

            rule "fire in rank order 1,2,..."
            when
                  Element( $rank : rank,... )
                  // ...
            salience -$rank    ### <=
            then
                 // ...
            end

            The dynamically set salience does all the work. (Of
            course, you can
            achieve the same order
            in Drools easily enough.)

            This is possible since salience is a value that must be
            carried over
            into the activation.
            There is at least one other rule attribute that shares
            this property,
            but I'm not sure
            whether anything useful can be done with dynamic agenda
            groups.

            Cheers
            -W
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