Already published it for him :) Michael if you think you'll end up wanting to publish a number of blogs we can add you as a guest writer.

Mark
Edson Tirelli wrote:

   Michael,

   Really interesting use case.

   Thank you for sharing!!

In case you are interested in publishing an article on the Drools blog as a guest writer, it would be more than welcome!

I completely agree with your suggestions on improvements. We just need to find the time to work on them!

   Cheers,
     Edson

2008/9/17 Michael Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>

    HI Edson,

    while discussing custom operators in drools trunk, you pocked me
    repeatedly to write something about how we use drools in a research
    project in the field of engineering. Here you go... may be it is also
    helpful or at least interesting for the other readers on this list :-)

    The Scope: Naval Engineering,

    In naval engineering vessels consists of thousands of parts (read: way
    more than an aircraft has today). Focusing on the steel structure,
    most
    of these parts are  2-dimensional plates of a certain size, thickness,
    grade and contour. For most fields of applications detailed
    regulations
    from classification societies etc. exist.

    Currently, the design of such objects is done using specialized CAD
    systems. Here the following issues are present in all cad systems and
    the design process today:
    - design time is 6 - 18 months (and not 10 - 15 years as for an
     air plane)
    - this means concurrent design, i. e. different people are working on
    parts or features that are closely related (strength, fatigue, cost,
    functional aspects or just being in the same room) on different levels
    of granularity (changing the hull 6 weeks before building happens!)
    - and no connection between design intent (specification on paper),
    design conditions (regulations, by the customer, results of
    calculations) and design solution chosen.

    Result:
    - We just have the geometrical data, nothing more in the CAD-model
    - No automatic checks if a certain component is changed; no automatic
    tests if a chosen  design solutions really satisfies the conditions at
    lowest cost today
    - Therefore, changes (which you can't avoid) are cost intensive and
    error prone. Also, no one really knows why a certain solutions was
    chosen

    Enter Logic & Drools

    The objective of our research is to make the design process context
    aware. Example: If I design a "door" in a watertight "wall" the cad
    system should check whether the selected door is a watertight model.

    So, using one of the most popular commercial cad systems for naval
    engineering the approach is to define the standards (currently
    paper-based) electronically using DROOLS.  Also, context-information
    like watertight, stress level=x ... is added to the model and
    reused in
    the design process. For standard design tasks (in a part of the
    field of
    detailed steel structural design) we use drools to completely automate
    the design process, i. e.
    - find a design problem in the model
    - select a suitable solution adhering to all known boundary conditions
    - design the solution
    - and assign a assurance level for the solution (how good is it?)

    Lessons Learnt from an Engineering POV

    1) Extracting the knowledge is hard
    2) Formulating it logically sound even harder (even official
    regulations
    are vague  on a regular basis)
    3) Defining the context a solution is valid for is even more
    difficult.
    4) Current CAD systems in naval engineering are  not really capable to
    store meta information and to interface with other applications.

    Lessons Learnt from a Drools POV

    1) Drools is quite a nice system :-)
    2) With DSL even engineers can use it (once they are trained how to
    "Think Rules". And that is next to impossible)
    3) What's missing is some solution to easily define classes, class
    hierarchies and (!) instance data. We use OWL for now. eCore might be
    usable yet is terrible from a UI usability perspective
    4) Not drools is the problem but getting the data in and out!
    4a) The Smooks binding could be a godsend for this
    4b) Fact templates sound really promising if you think dynamically
    generated classes via web services...

    What's missing in Drools?

    - An OWL/RDF binding would be really great (we use OWL to define,
    edit,
    store our standards. But encountered the clash of open world logic
    (DL)
    and closed world logic (CS) more than once.) I know there is quite a
    large interest for such a solution in the Ontology user base.

    - Better support for constraint programming (what we do here and
    there)
    for simple primitive cases (read: selection processes) would help.
    Drools solver is overkill; drools rules can not handle this if you
    think
    optional constraints. The custom operator "== (open world style)" we
    talked about helps, though.



    Well, it has gotten longer than I expected yet only skimmed the
    surface
    of our approach, I think. Hopefully not to long :-)

    cu, Michael
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