Thanks Greg. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Greg Barton <[email protected]> wrote:
> It should be possible to define rules in a decision table that have "true" > as their condition, though since I don't use decision tables I can't say for > sure. Then in the action just insert the data. > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Wishing Carebear <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Wishing Carebear <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [rules-users] some pointers for solution > > To: "Rules Users List" <[email protected]> > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 12:05 AM > > Hi Greg: > > Looks like Excel may hep to pppulate the data objects > > but running into only problem. Don't know how to insert > > and update the dataobject in the same excel file. > > > > In other words, want to write the following rule in > > Excel: > > > > if > > eval(true) > > then > > Data d = new Data(); > > d.setAttr1("attr1"); > > d.setAttr2("attr1"); > > insert(d); > > > > Thanks, > > cabear > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM, > > Wishing Carebear <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your reply Greg. > > > > Actually I have 2 requirements: > > > > 1) Define the data objects in the rule itself so that > > the business user can define\modify the data > > objects > > 2) have a rule that can evalaute the data objects > > against the criteria the user requests.. > > > > It is my bad I started with the 2nd requirement > > :( > > > > Regards, > > cabear > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM, > > Greg Barton <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Funny you should bring > > that up, I was just having this debate with a co-worker. :) > > > > A decision table is a means for defining rules, not working > > memory objects. So no, out of the box a decision table as > > it's defined in drools (and other rule management > > systems) would not serve that purpose. However, > > there's no reason why you couldn't parse a > > spreadsheet (or other tabular data format) to generate Data > > objects. > > > > > > Now, are you sure it's Data objects you want to > > generate? I'm guessing from how your question was > > phrased that it's Query objects you'd like to > > generate. In that case the answer to the question is still > > no, but...if you use Wolfgang's approach to solve the > > problem (i.e. defining the queries in the rules themselves, > > and not in a working memory object) then using a decision > > table is appropriate. In fact, it's probably the best > > way to define the rules. (It's most compact and readable > > when you have many rules with a repetitive structure.) > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Wishing Carebear <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > From: Wishing Carebear <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [rules-users] some pointers for > > solution > > > To: "Rules Users List" <[email protected]> > > > Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 3:38 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Greg: > > > Is it possible to use decision table to populate the > > > Data object that contains the criteria list > > > information. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ravi > > > > > > > > > 2009/11/8 Greg Barton <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > There > > > are a couple of ways to do this. I'm sure > > there's > > > a bit more clean way than the example I'm > > providing, but > > > this should get you in the right direction. It's > > not > > > > > 100% rules, because it involves a bit of java > > collections > > > trickery. (See attached project, > > > collection_DroolsCriteriaMatch.tar.gz) > > > > > > > > > The heart of it is a single rule: > > > > > > rule "Match" > > > > > when > > > d : Data() > > > q : Query( size <= d.size ) > > > Number( intValue == q.size ) > > > from accumulate( > > > Criteria( this memberOf d, this memberOf q ), > > > > > > init( int total = 0; ), > > > > > action( total ++; ), > > > reverse( total --; ), > > > result( total ) > > > ) > > > then > > > System.out.println("Match: " + d + > > " > > > and " + q) ; > > > end > > > > > > > > The Data object holds data to be queried, Query > > objects are > > > asserted to match the Data, and Criteria objects can > > be > > > contained in either. (With the aforementioned > > collections > > > trickery that if a Criteria is contained in a Query it > > can > > > > > be found in a Data object, but the reverse isn't > > true. > > > See the Query.contains(Object) method for how > > that's > > > implemented.) > > > > > > > > > So the rule above basically says "There's a > > Data > > > > > object, and all of the Query objects Criteria are > > contained > > > in the Data object." > > > > > > There's an alternate way of doing this using eval > > and a > > > bit more java fu. See the > > eval_DroolsCriteriaMatch.tar.gz > > > > > project attached. This one's probably not > > optimal, > > > though, as it's basically a brute force check of > > all > > > Data objects against the asserted Query. > > > > > > > > > I tried for a while to get a solution working with > > > > > different criteria types from both Data and Query > > objects > > > being asserted into working memory, but I couldn't > > get > > > the accumulate syntax right. Anyone know of a way to > > do > > > that? (I figure that would get a "pure > > rules" > > > > > solution.) > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Wishing Carebear <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Wishing Carebear <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [rules-users] some pointers for > > solution > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 10:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello: > > > > There are n selection criteria from s1 .. sn for > > each > > > > item i1.. in. Each item can have a subset of > > criteria > > > which > > > > applies to them. > > > > > > > > > > The end user, can choose a subset of criteria > > like c1 > > > > > > > and c5 and only the item that has c1 and c5 > > valid > > > should be > > > > returned. For example: if item i1 and i2 have > > > > > criterias > > > > valid for c1, c2, c5, c6, c8 since the request is > > only > > > for > > > > criteria c1 and c5, i1 and i2 must be returned. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to write a rule using drools for > > this > > > > > > requirement. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help and time, > > > > cabear > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > rules-users mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > rules-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > rules-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rules-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rules-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >
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