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On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Grant Rettke <[email protected]> wrote: > Who are the primary researchers of expert-systems today? > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Mark Proctor <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Actually Pamela is one of the papers I've been trying to track down, > can't get it on the internet any more. As I first saw it referenced in > "Production matching for large learning systems". > > > > You don't by chance have the paper still? > > Barachini, F. (1991) The evolution of PAMELA. Expert Systems, 8(2):87-98 > > > > I'm building up a collection of relevant research papers, over at > mendelay. That is one of my missing papers, that I've been unable to track: > > http://www.mendeley.com/groups/2918061/rule-systems/papers/ > > > > Mark > > On 12 Mar 2013, at 18:28, Wolfgang Laun <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Mark, > >> > >> no, the system I'm talking about is PAMELA, developed here in Vienna. > >> You may find references to papers citing PAMELA, authored by > >> F.Barachini and N.Theuretzbacher (one is referenced in the thesis you > >> quoted, see [13]), but I doubt that you'l find one of the papers on > >> the web. It was pre-internet days way back then :-) > >> > >> If you could produce an RBS ranking based on rules fired in > >> production, I think that PAMELA would be in an excellent position. > >> There's a three-digit number of installations by now, but they're > >> running 24/7. > >> > >> -W > >> > >> > >> On 12/03/2013, Mark Proctor <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> OPS83? > >>> > http://repository.cmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2478&context=compsci > >>> > >>> > >>> or YES/L1? (seems information on this is out of print and not online > >>> either) > >>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00070YQSU/ref=r_soa_w_d > >>> "YES/L1: Integrating expert systems technology with traditional > programming > >>> languages (Research Report RC. International Business Machines Inc. > Research > >>> Division)" > >>> > >>> > >>> I definitely find linq interesting, as it's straight out of the > research > >>> pages from these projects - I wonder if the linq/database propel know > about > >>> these... The first time I saw it was in this paper "procedural match > augments > >>> data-driven match" > >>> http://www.aaai.org/Papers/AAAI/1986/AAAI86-037.pdf > >>> > >>> They move the "lhs" logic into the consequence block, using the actual > >>> "when" part as a simple goal trigger - allowing the 'lhs' to be used > >>> procedurally, like linq. This allows them to control when a rule is > >>> evaluated and that it's evaluation is atomic, and can have cleanup work > >>> done. > >>> > >>> Mark > >>> > >>> On 12 Mar 2013, at 06:04, Wolfgang Laun <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Indeed, this thesis mentions a few features of the system I was > >>>> talking about :-) > >>>> ([13]) > >>>> -W > >>>> > >>>> On 11/03/2013, Mark Proctor <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> There were a number of research efforts that looked at combining > >>>>> procedural > >>>>> and rule base programming. > >>>>> This one is quite interesting: > >>>>> Combining Rule-Based and Procedural Programming in the XC and XE > >>>>> Programming > >>>>> Lanaugages > >>>>> > http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.9.1106&rep=rep1&type=pdf > >>>>> > >>>>> Mark > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 11 Mar 2013, at 18:03, Wolfgang Laun <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 11 March 2013 16:19, Mark Proctor <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> So thinking really long term here. Can we build a "java layer" that > >>>>>> provide all the rule functionality we need - but fit ontop of the > java > >>>>>> language neatly. We'd probably need to allow "rule" keyword and > have it > >>>>>> in > >>>>>> Classes, at the method level. All class members and methods would be > >>>>>> available to the rules in that class. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is this production rule system where you can write your rules > >>>>>> embedded in compiling units, and alongside the legacy program > units, of > >>>>>> a > >>>>>> procedural, modular, strongly type HLL, and where you use > expressions > >>>>>> in > >>>>>> the language's own syntax in constraints... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We've been using it ever since 1986. Rabbi Akiva was right, wasn't > he > >>>>>> ;-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -W > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> rules-users mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> rules-users mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> rules-users mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> rules-users mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rules-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > -- > Grant Rettke | ACM, AMA, COG, IEEE > [email protected] | http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/ > Wisdom begins in wonder. > ((λ (x) (x x)) (λ (x) (x x))) > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > -- - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.com <http://salaboy.wordpress.com> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jugargentina.org - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
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