Turns out that if I annotate the pojos that are being modified by some of the 
rules with the PropertyReactive annotation, then every single NPE disappears.


> On Sep 18, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Jonathan Knehr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'll see if I can't try again to reproduce this as a unit test this week.
> 
> Any rule that has a not/exist only has one in the entire rule, as the last 
> condition. Not currently, but in the past if I've commented out all of 
> not/exist conditions in all the rules, it would run without any exceptions.
> 
> Additionally, I'm using salience quite heavily. I'm wondering if the salience 
> has to do something to do with these errors as well. I set the salience 
> (automatically) for every rule so that the firing order is the same as the 
> order they appear in the DRL file.
> 
> Not using multi-thread. Assert behavior is set to equality. Everything else 
> is default. Not using windows or aggregators. As a matter of fact I'm not 
> using any special operators except for "not" and "exists". Everything is just 
> joining on facts/events. Have about 4-5 entry points where these facts are 
> held.
> 
> The issue seems to never happen on an external, API insert. It seems to only 
> happen when a rules consequence inserts/modifies/updates/retracts. And even 
> then, it doesn't happen in a predictable manner. Although it is consistent, 
> so if I replay the same events the errors happen in the same exact sequence.
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Davide Sottara <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> If confirmed, this would be EXTREMELY serious and must be fixed in 5.6
>> Final.
>> Could you open a JIRA ticket for this?
>> We'd really need a reproducer for this issue, without some additional
>> context it will be extremely hard to point to the right lines of code.
>> 
>> For example,
>> is it sufficient for your rule to have one exists/not, or do you need
>> more than one in combination?
>> Are you using CEP and/or sliding windows?
>> Multiple threads?
>> What do you mean by "complex retractions"
>> and so on...
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for all the help you can provide
>> Davide
>> 
>>> On 09/18/2013 10:29 AM, Jonathan Knehr wrote:
>>> Tried with the 5.6 snapshot just now.
>>> 
>>> Same/similar issues.
>>> 
>>> NPEs in RightTupleIndexHashTable.
>>> ClassCastExceptions from many of the InternalReadAccessor generated 
>>> bytecode classes.
>>> NPEs in MvelContraint class.
>>> 
>>> I'm replaying the exact same series of events that I did for the 5.5 run.
>>> 
>>> Could you point me to where you think the origin of the corruption occurs? 
>>> I have breakpoints where the exceptions are thrown, but this is long after 
>>> the data structure was originally corrupted. It would help me try my hand 
>>> at debugging the issue for you further.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance!!
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Davide Sottara <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Did you try to run the code with 5.6.0-SNAPSHOT? It's now available from
>>>> RHT maven repositories..
>>>> the official release is still waiting for the fix of a few more bugs,
>>>> but the tuple index one should have
>>>> already been fixed. If not, it would be critical to include it in the
>>>> final version
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Davide
>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/18/2013 09:16 AM, Jonathan Knehr wrote:
>>>>> When is 5.6 going to be officially released? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are many critically buggy things going on in 5.5 where the entire 
>>>>> RightTupleIndex is getting very corrupted. I still haven't been able to 
>>>>> produce a standalone unit test, but the issue always involves rules with 
>>>>> "exists" and "not" in combination with complex retractions. Never does it 
>>>>> happen with a few events, but when you run the scenarios over and over 
>>>>> again millions of times, eventually the index becomes so corrupt that 
>>>>> almost every single activation throws NPEs in MVEL, in the generated byte 
>>>>> code, and in the rete data structures themselves to the point where all 
>>>>> rule firing stops working.
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