I already talked to you about giving a talk so seems good ;)

I also had various point me at rust-crypto's implementation and it is much
better than I realized. It's using the asm! macro to take advantage of a
lot of neat Intel features including AES-NI acceleration. That's great!

I also learned about the existence of the asm! macro in the process. It'd
be really interesting to see someone try to reimplement rust-constanttime
in ASM. That should solve any worries about LLVM optimizations, and provide
a good building block for implementing crypto in otherwise pure Rust,
specifically for things like RSA or ECC.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Erick Tryzelaar <erick.tryzel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> What a great coincidence that this came up. I'm in the process of
> organizing a crypto-themed rust meetup. Would anyone like to give a talk
> about something crypto related?
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Tony Arcieri <basc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Brian Anderson <bander...@mozilla.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been told by LLVM folks that getting LLVM to do constant time code
>>> generation is essentially hopeless, and it should just be written in asm.
>>> One could start by compiling with LLVM, then hand-inspecting the output.
>>>
>>
>> That's unfortunate. It would probably be good for any pure Rust
>> implementation of any cryptographic primitive to do a timing variability
>> study on the main CPU architectures they intend for their code to be run
>> on. Perhaps I'll work on a tool to do that ;)
>>
>> If any you are curious why this is a problem, I'd suggest taking a look
>> at djb's original cache timing attacks paper, where he demonstrates
>> over-the-network AES key recovery using cache timing sidechannels in
>> OpenSSL:
>>
>> http://cr.yp.to/antiforgery/cachetiming-20050414.pdf
>>
>> Things get worse when you're talking about two VMs that are cotenant on
>> the same hypervisor, or shared hosting systems in general.
>>
>> --
>> Tony Arcieri
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