On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 02:01:35PM -0400, Decklin Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > people == martin krafft, or is the set atcually large?
> 
> There are apparently some built-in features of zsh that use it, if I
> understand him correctly.

Well, my local zsh expert was apparently even using SHLVL but any actual
problem didn't occur to him yet, so zsh users do not seem to universally
want this (despite your and my other agruments, of course, also applying
:)

> > If all they want is a fresh start, they should use a loginshell and can
> > set whatever env variable they want, or put it in teir .profile.
> 
> I think telling them to use loginShell is the best (and simplest)
> solution. If bash/zsh/whatever can't adjust their behavior accordingly,
> I can blame them for it :)

Yeah - loginShell is not just a workaround, but really "correct" - those
people do not want subshell behaviour (SHLVL > 1) but loginshell behaviour
(no previous SHLVL set/defined environment/etc.).

(The only grian of salt is that loginshells do not automaticllay reset
SHLVL - which make slittle sense, but then, the solution is to reste SHLVL in
your profile, if you want that behaviour, and not, if you don't).

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