On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Marc Lehmann <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:47:33PM -0800, Nate Soares <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > For compatibility with other terminals which do the same.
> >
> > This "feature" was popularized before bold fonts became prevalent.
>
> I didn't know bold fonts are prevalent in terminals.
>
> In any case, urxvt emphasizes backwards compatibility. I don't like the
> default fg/bg colours, but changing them breaks a lot of existing setups,
> and we decided to not do that gratituously.
>
> > urxvt allows bold fonts and it doesn't make sense to do both.
>
> That's up to the user to decide. I like it that way for example.
>
> > (If you do both on a 16 color terminal there's literally no way to get
> > bold #0 using the defaults. That's silly.)
>
> Right, except that urxvt (and almost every non-pc terminal) isn't a 16
> colour terminal but an 8 colour one, with the xterm 88 colour extension.
>
> > Some terminals do this, some do not (konsole, st). There's solid
> precedent
> > for urxvt to switch to the more sane default.
>
> "precedent"? I am not sure you are using this word correctly.
>
> konsole for example originally was incompatible to any existing
> terminal. If that sets a precedent, then clearly it's a precedent on how
> not to do it for existing terminals with a long history.
>
> > I posit that this "feature" should be off by default, or at the very
> least
> > it should be off by default when boldFont is used.
>
> And your evidence to support this is...?
>

Common sense. In what scenario would a user define a bold font and also
want the colors to be changed? It removes abilities from urxvt (the ability
to display bold #0) without adding any benefit. It's not even a tradeoff.
It's a hobble.

There is nothing I can think of that will break when color inversion is
removed that doesn't already break when you have a boldFont.

Inversion with a boldFont only hurts, it never helps.


>
> I can understand that you are frustrated because you didn't read or find
> the option in the documentation, but let's not overreact.


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