>
>
>  This sounds great.   Would you be willing to share your code ? Would you
> like to turn it into an open source project ?
>
>
One day maybe - I started this with very modest goals and over time it
turned into something else completely, plus a kitchen sink ... code is
messy, inconsistent, there is a lot of it, and I never anticipated anyone
else would ever need to see it or understand it.... just cleaning it up
will be a lot of work, and documenting it even more...

And then, OpenSource projects are only meaningful if they can attract
reasonable number of developers... as what I did is completely oriented
toward end-user that does not want to know what RAOP or A2DP is, this is
probably unlikely


 However, given the limitations of DLNA streaming architecture (Gappless
> playback, limited formats support in standard, limited choice of control
> points, control point must remain running to play next track/playlist,
> general stability issues depending on particular implementation/product)
> you may want to consider if you really want to make DLNA a backbone for
> such setup.
>

Please explain this further.


If I understood correctly, you do not HAVE to use DLNA/UPnP-AV, you want to
use it because you believe it will serve you well. I HAVE (well, sort of)
to use it, as I have two receivers that can only accept DLNA streams.

Because of the above listed limitations, I would say it may be better for
you to consider using RAOP streaming, or even "native" streams that several
sources can provide and consume, such as MPD, Pulse, SBS/LMS, SubSonic...
etc. as you can choose both your endpoint and your stream server - if I
understood you correctly.


>
> Also, with 8 zones, you might find it more practical to reverse the
>> streaming direction, and to have the 8 sinks (destinations) in the
>> destination (room) and not on the server itself, and simply stream to them
>> from the server.
>>
> I'm implementing a whole house audio system.   All the zones are wired to
> a central location and connected to large multi zone amplifiers, presently
> 2 x 6 stereo zones each.    The only way to implement a local sink in each
> room would be to unwire  the centralized wiring coming from each room and
> have a single channel "sound server" and amplifier in each room.  This
> would necessitate tearing into drywall and then putting a server and
> amplifier in each room.


More or less yes... but not a "server and amplifier in each room" just an
device that can receive a network stream (Airport Express, Wallplug PC such
as Rasbery, any of number of "network players" from many vendors (Linn,
Phillips, Cambridge Audio, Logitech Sqeezebox, Sonos, Xbox, Sony PS3....)
or a receiver with built-in DLNA or AirPlay) and a means of connecting this
to speakers (eg. an amplifier unless you use a receiver with built-in
network streaming on Sons with amp built-in, etc.)

There is also this thing called "WiFi", but it is tricky, so I dont blame
you if you dont want to hear about it :-) But you will probably want to
have WiFi in your house anyway, so it may pay to do this right and then use
it for this purpose. Nothing a huge antenna and few strategically placed AP
or two wont fix ;-) Ethernet over power also seem to work well for most
people ...



 This is what I do, having two Apple Airports Express sinks, two DLNA sinks
> (Onkyo receivers) and a kitchen SqueezeBox "radio", Bluetooht headphones,
> plus one Intel Atom based box that runs only players serving as host to a
> audiophile USB DAC, and as output for an outdoor amp/speakers - all
> connected to a box that runs full set of servers, stores my music
> collection, acts as 2 channel TV tuner server/pvr etc etc
>


> Interesting.    When you say "connected", I assume you mean network
> connected.
>
Yes.


>
> I'll be implementing a couple stand alone servers as well for zones that
> are not wired to the central amplifier.
>

Hmmm... might be better to spend that money on a good WiFi network rather
then on multiple server that will have to have there own copy of your music
collection


>
> Which Atom are you using ?
>

Just plain Intel made mini-ATX Atom mobo I think its "510"-something... sub
100$ fanless things in shoebox sized case


>
> I am thinking of getting a few Onkyo TX 515s as well.  How do you like
> yours ?


I like very much, but I dont like I cant get DLNA streaming working on them
:(




>
>> Note that in above description the DLNA "stream-to" functionality based
>> on Rygel is still not working for me - it works with some DLNA
>> devices/applications, but not mine unfortunately (Onkyo, Samsung) but
>> hopefully with help of kind people on this list we might get this working
>> too :-)
>>
>>  Which Onkyo are you using ?


609 & 709


>  What error message are you getting ?


Search for my previous posts on this list.



> Can you stream to it from other devices ?


I can open files from other devices on it, and streaming from HTTP sources
works fine (eg. "Internet Radio") Only alternative way to create a DLNA
stream to Rygel I know of (on end-user level without using UPnP libs
directly)  is by using Microsoft Media Player "play to" function, and that
does work.


>  Is this a rygel issue or a Onkyo issue ?
>

Not really a simple answer.... both Onkyo and Rygel pass the same test
according to DLNA certification requirements. Jens implemented recently a
patch that was supposed to deal (work around) this issue, but it did not
work for me (or I messed it up somehow)

Maybe when he has time he'll respond to my feedback :-)

Cheers,
Andrej
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