Hi Matt,

Thank you for sharing use-cases.

For the latter case, I guess it should take some lags to change controllers 
addresses on switches
to do efficiently failover.
Might have still some lags, but how about using virtual IPs on controller side 
(like clustering
controller)?
I should be smaller lags than changing addresses on switch side.

Thanks,
Iwase


On 2017年10月04日 10:56, Matthew Moskowitz wrote:
Thanks Iwase and Carlos for your thoughts,

2 cases that this feature is interesting to me for would be:

Integrating Ryu with other software that is already running a different webserver/asynchronous library. Nicer in this case not to have to deal with 2 different webservers/coroutine types.

Efficient failover if one Ryu application should fail for any reason, the new one can instantly connect to the switch. Your suggestion to use the ovsdb library could help with this one.

Thanks,
Matt

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Iwase Yusuke <iwase.yusu...@gmail.com <mailto:iwase.yusu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi Carlos,

    Thank you for your reply!

    As you said, the OpenFlow Spec does not restrict Switches must initiate 
connection to Controllers.
    But initiating connection by Controllers seems to be the "optional" feature.
    ===
    Quote: OpenFlow Spec 1.3.5 "6.3.3 Connection Setup"
    ===
    Optionally, the switch may allow the controller to initiate the connection. 
In this case, the
    switch should
    accept incoming standard TLS or TCP connections from the controller, using 
either a user-specified
    transport port or the default OpenFlow transport port 6653. Connections 
initiated by the switch and
    the controller behave the same once the transport connection is established.
    ===

    If OVS does not know on where Ryu is listening when OVS starting up, how 
about using OVSDB library
    to tell controller's IP:Port to OVS?
    If OVS listening on OVSDB connection, "set-controller" API can tell its own 
address to OVS.
    
https://github.com/osrg/ryu/blob/6e69e9b8a6ebd2bb06aa864cc76ef0b79d1ac9c3/ryu/lib/ovs/bridge.py#L128
    
<https://github.com/osrg/ryu/blob/6e69e9b8a6ebd2bb06aa864cc76ef0b79d1ac9c3/ryu/lib/ovs/bridge.py#L128>

    And apart from that, initiating connection by Controllers looks interesting 
feature for me.

    Thanks,
    Iwase



    On 2017年10月04日 08:57, Carlos Ferreira wrote:

        This is just a question, not a critic.
        Doesn't the OpenFlow standard stipulates that it is the Switch that
        must connect to a Controller, and not the other way around?

        Carlos Ferreira

        On 4 October 2017 at 00:42, Iwase Yusuke <iwase.yusu...@gmail.com
        <mailto:iwase.yusu...@gmail.com>> wrote:


            Hi Matt,

            As far as I know, Ryu does not provide such feature (only do wait 
incoming connection
            like server).
            Would you share us if you have any use-case or situation where Ryu 
must act as a client?
            If there are useful use-cases, better to implement it, I guess!

            Thanks,
            Iwase



            On 2017年10月04日 07:16, Matthew Moskowitz wrote:


                Hi,

                By default when a Ryu application is started, it is listening 
for a connection
                request that comes from the switch. (For instance, using ovs, 
you would run
                ovs-vsctl set-controller to tell it where to talk to the Ryu 
application). However,
                OpenvSwitch can also behave like a server and wait for a 
request from an openflow
                controller.

                Is there an existing setting that allows a Ryu application act 
as a client such that
                the Ryu app will make the initial request to connect with the 
openflow switch?

                Thanks,
                Matt


                
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