Hi all: We tried to get S gaugers interested in it - he had put out a really nice O gauge one, but not enough people "signed on" so that he could be sure that he wouldn't get stuck with 50 or so brass S gauge engines. I think his name was Rich Yoder - although when I went to look up his website, it didn't come up on the web address I had. Rance Velapoldi (Norway)
Ben Perry wrote: >Greetings All; >Speaking of GE switchers and 75 tonners, what ever happened to the manufacturer who >was "ready to release" a GE S gauge 70T a few years ago? >Ben Perry > >Rollain Mercier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >and he notes - > >GE started early in the locomotive business, (1924 with an unsuccessful >demonstrator) but never made much of it until the sixties. They made a >number of industrial locos as well as a few box cabs, notably 300 and 600hp >versions for IC, Ford, Hoboken Terminal etc. as well as a couple of >construction companies. They also supplied generators and traction motors >to EMC for their gas electrics. > >One sidenote - GE solved EMC's cranky mechanical throttle problem with a 14 >point electrical throttle that went on to be used in EMD's diesels. As they >were also teamed with ALCO, all of their locos used this throttle too and >when GE began producing road locos in the sixties - same throttle >arrangement. This coincidence allowed all three builders' products to MU, a >factor that made BLH and FM locos less desirable in road applications. > >GE went on to build "2 and 3 power" box cab locos for NYC, Rock Island and >D&LW in 1930. They were mostly used in and around terminals where smoke was >a problem, although the Central did use them in yard operations in later >years.They built their first cab style switchers for Bush Terminal in 1931 >and a few 600 hp center-cabs in the early 30s. (Like the earlier 600hp >box-cabs, they had two 300hp prime movers). > >Perhaps the breakthrough locos were the ten 600hp Hew Haven DEY-2 class >switchers as they had one single motor-generator. They look a bit like a >short RS1 with the same truck used on the 44 tonner. They were very >successful and a few lasted well into the sixties on the BAR and a couple >of industrial yards. They weighed about 110 tons and would be a match for >early ALCO or EMD switchers. > >They built several 1000hp center-cabs in the late 40s, notably the Ford >streamlined versions, (one of which is preserved somewhere) and struck >paydirt with the 44 tonner in 1940. Because of the Union fireman rules for >locomotives exceeding 90,000 lbs, the locomotive found a niche with 300 or >so being constructed as late as the mid 50s. At 380hp they aren't a match >for an SW or ALCO but their big brothers would be. > >Another sidenote: The Springfield Terminal RR in Southeastern Vermont, >purchased 44 tonners to replace their steeple-cab electrics and eliminate >two (of the four) extra crewmen, (a fireman and a wireman), both required >by Union contracts. However the Brotherhood threatened to strike if the >jobs were eliminated so for a while they ran with four men - all squeezed >into a 44 ton cab! > >The War restricted GE's locomotive building to supplying electrical >equipment to ALCO and strategic marine builders, as well as a few >industrial locos for the War Department, but after the war they did build >70 and 95 ton locos for branch lines and industrial applications. They have >the 44 Tonner cab and a short ALCO style car body. The only difference >between the 70 ton and 95 ton locos is a heavier frame. Both are 500-600hp >locos and would compare with early SW's and HH600s. It would appear that >they were more for small roads or light branches with traffic too heavy for >a 44 tonner. > >Some of the 70 tonners are still in use here in Maine: > >http://www.wegoplaces.com/Attraction_829.aspx > >I'm sure there are a number of others still around too. Here is a link to >Northeast Railfan's 70 ton page - plenty of photos to click on for larger >images: > >http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel131.html > >GE did not enter the switcher market like EMD did as they were already in >the business with ALCO. By the time they started building their own >locomotives, the need for switchers had diminished so they concentrated on >road locomotives. With a small market for industrial and export switchers, >they did crank out occaisional locos. ALCO's last switchers, the 28 >"Century 415" series were built in the 1960s: > >http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel13.html > >In a few years, EMD had also discontinued switchers in regular production too. > >You can browse this site for the whole, (I think) line of GE switchers as >well as other manufacturers: > >http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel.html > >Hope this helps, > >Raleigh > > >At 03:05 PM 11/4/2004, Barry Comer wrote: > > > >>What GE switcher would be comparable to the NW's, SW's, and >>Alco S's? I think the 44 tonner would be too small. How much could the >>70 tonner handle? Did they make an 85 tonner, or other sizes? >>Thanks again, Barry. >> >> > > > >Change your membership, change your message settings, use our CALENDAR, view shared >files or photos, view the list archives, GO TO >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ >Yahoo! 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