Dick, John and all, 1. I should have specified I was referring to the sleepers, not the cafe car. I understand that right now only the undecorated version are available but AM web site does not make distinction between the undecorated and painted version once available.
2. I appreciate the fact there are some plus value to the NASG cars but at the end, I will use only one set of wheel and only one or two sets of decals since I will not use the same car name twice. 3. Usually, when I put money upfront for a project, I expect to have a small reduction off the final retail price once delivered or plus value as number 2. 4. I expect to receive the product before it is (any versions) available for retail, especially from the manufacturer. 5. The initial offer was for NASG members, now anyone outside NASG can buy one and receive theirs, undecorated for now, and maybe even before me for less than what I paid for. I just feel something is not right, NASG or AM, not sure but I believe as a customer and NASG member, I have reason to be disappointed. Dick and John, you both know how many cars I took, maybe one of the largest individual order and the $5 would have made a significant difference. It is not meant to criticize any NASG individual as I know you are volunteers and appreciate the work you have both done and continue doing. I had to speak up Simon -----Original Message----- From: Richard Karnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:27 PM To: S scale e-group Cc: Ron Bashista Subject: Re: [S-Scale Modeling] New S Scale Pullman Heavyweights - A Few Questions Paul, Simon, et al -- I am somewhat disturbed by the messages below. Allow me to make the proper distinctions... 1. The NASG Pullman project includes both the 12-1 and 10-1-2 cars and excludes the cafe car. American Models is offering only the cafe car separately. These projects are not related -- I.e., the NASG has nothing to do with the cafe cars. 2. The NASG cars have some features that American Models generally does not include in its usual offerings: Dry transfers for car names, wheelsets for both hirail and scale, couplers for both hirail and scale, and instructions for choosing your car names as well as reducing the operating radius. AM's cars have traditionally been available for hirail OR scale, not both in the same box. And they do not contain the NASG dry transfers for car names. These transfers were made exclusively for the NASG and have a retail value of $5.00 per set. Given this alone, the prices of the NASG Pullmans and the AM cafe cars are identical (within 5 cents). I see nothing wrong with AM's business practices here. It makes good sense to me for AM to offer a companion product to the NASG Pullmans. They are of equal value for what you get, and they do not compete with each other. Regarding delivery of the 12-1 and 10-1-2 cars -- The CNR and grey cars were delayed because AM ran out of wheelsets and had to reorder. They arrived in late December. AM estimated another 30 days to pack and ship the grey and CNR cars to the NASG for distribution to purchasers. Orders that include the CNR and/or grey cars (even if they also ordered red and/or green cars) will be filled when the CNR and grey cars are received from AM. People who ordered only green and/or red cars already have theirs. Dick Karnes, Exec. VP and Pullman Project Manager NASG Inc. =========== [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, thought I would try to start some discussion here about the new > American Models (S Scale) Pullman passenger cars - link is below. > > > - The National Association of S Gaugers (NASG) just offered some > Pullman cars. I gather these are in addition to the NASG cars, different > configurations? Simon Parent wrote: > I am not too happy of what I am seeing here. American Model is selling the > cars that NASG help bring back for less ($59.95). > > I bought many of them at NASG price $65 each and laid my money over a year > ago and still haven't receive my cars. > > So much for American Model not so good business practice. > The poll results are in....... To REPLY to the list, use REPLY ALL, to reply to the sender, use REPLY. I do NOT know if this works on all e-mail software, but it works on some of the most common ones. Change your membership, change your message settings, use our CALENDAR, view shared files or photos, view the list archives, GO TO http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ Yahoo! Groups Links The poll results are in....... To REPLY to the list, use REPLY ALL, to reply to the sender, use REPLY. I do NOT know if this works on all e-mail software, but it works on some of the most common ones. Change your membership, change your message settings, use our CALENDAR, view shared files or photos, view the list archives, GO TO http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
